FlaFFy_91
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Put a tiny blob of tip ex on the head if the bolt at 12. Then turn to the desired angle. That's all I do. Save spending on a digital
Do it when I build engines and everything
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Dan
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Ive done this everyday for 11 years, tipex on the head of the bolt method is absolute crap.
What happens when you have rebuilt a £100k+ engine, and it fails. You check build logs, and investigate, and find tipex method has been used to torque the most vital parts of the engine? Shell would love that...
Its got to be done and be proven via documentation/record of equipment used.
The techangles are perfect for what we need from what I can see. Will save hundreds of hours a year in labour.
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csweatherston
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Would estimate i use it twice a week on average.
Same as this:
However the bar has been modified now to include a flexi crocodile clip 
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Dan
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Yea, same one I have. Shit unless u are lucky and have a decent place to jam the rod hard against, otherwise they wobble about and stuff.
Ive seen the clip technique, but again, its not really gonna cut it with these huge companies we have to deal with.
Its getting more and more ridiculous how tight the documentation has to be, its nearly irrelevant that u have actually built an engine
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mooney
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Manual torque wrenches aren’t that accurate, they are calibrated with a greater tolerance than a digital one, ideally the manual ones should be calibrated once a week to ensure accuracy because they are adjustable if they are accidently dropped that can have an effect on the accuracy.
We use crane digital iq2 torque wrench in work (http://www.crane-electronics.com/product/iqwrench2-opta/) and we have got a crane transducer to calibrate our dc tools, we use this because all results can be stored and used for reference
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Dan
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They would be nice.
Any idea on cost?
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craig8
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Was going to suggest something similar to mooney, unsure of the brand but I have seen torque wrenches that transmit via wifi to a log on the computer, sounds like the kind of thing that would be ideal in your situation. In heavy plant we tend to just use manual angle gauges but engine rebuilds aren't an every day thing, the factory uses those digital logging ones
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Dan
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Yea logging may be an option. Dependant on cost. As we have a witness log so already have proof of torquing everything.
30 head bolts at 60nm, then 60, 60, 60, 30 degrees. With a manual gauge I would say it takes 3 mins per bolt to set up each step and do the angle. Your looking at nearly 90 mins per step. So 360 mins to do the tightening.
I'd say 3mins per one is probably less than it takes. Due to constantly having to adjust the length of the holding bar. As the heads are 10 individual with things in the way on some of them
That would be reduced massively.
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SVM 286
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quote:
Originally posted by Dan
Anyone have any experience with them?
What make/model, opinions on it?
Looking to buy one, but not sure wether to go snap on, or settle for a cheaper model.
I've got a Tamp-on one Dan. Don't buy one.
Just get their decent 'click-click' equivalent.
It'll look lovely. You'll have it for life. It'll work every time you need it. And it'll be nearly half the price.
Wish i'd never bought mine. I should have bought the equivalent 1/2'' mechanical one and spent the balance on beer or petrol. 
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SVM 286
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Just read the rest of the thread. Didn't realise you weren't going to be using it on cars etc in a normal garage.
Sounds like with the type of application you have, it could be the lesser of two evils. Especially with a built-in electronic angle capability too (something I wasn't previously aware of).
Mine is overkill for normal garage use. It was far too bloody expensive and the batteries are dead flat, EVERY time I go to use it. Poxy thing. I hate it.
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Dan
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Wanna sell it 
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csweatherston
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Just to add.... The end caps which hold the batterys in are terrible too.
If you hold it too far toward the end the batteries lose contact.
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SVM 286
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quote:
Originally posted by Dan
Wanna sell it
Yeah, three hundred and fifty quid!!! 
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Dan
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Ha,
A new one is 360
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SVM 286
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I know.
Mine is as new.
Plus a tenner off.
Bargain
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SVM 286
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I think i've successfully managed to use it once in all the time i've had it.
It's spent more time being calibrated than it has being used. (no joke or exaggeration)
It's normally quicker and easier to borrow a clicky one than source three new 'AA' batteries, on the odd occasion that I need a torque wrench.
Total waste of money
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