RichR
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I wondered if they were identifiable by the variant, i.e. all 111S are K Series but all 135 are Toyota?
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gavin18787
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Ah erm pass as im lost on all the differences too. Think a standard k series is 118bjp iirc
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Corsa_Sport21
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http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f259/uk-elise-when-engine-switched-toyota-89370/
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RichR
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so any R is Toyota engined and any S is K Series.
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gavin18787
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From reading on pistonheads the 111r is a good engine but is a bit peaky and needs to be kept above 6000rpm as its vvt like a vtec engine
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ed
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My friend has a mint S2 Elise - had a hard time buying it because they sell so quickly! They're a bit of a modern classic and seem to hold their value nicely.
His has a K series and a point about those - the issues they're renowned for are down to inadequate cooling, in the Elise this isn't an issue as it's got a properly specced radiator in it. The main issue my friend has is with the battery, keep it hooked up to a trickle charger (can get solar powered ones) and it shouldn't give you too much trouble. I believe the problem is down to a tiny battery and an alarm which drains it pretty quickly.
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gavin18787
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Yer ive heard lotus ironed out alot of the k series niggles
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chris_uk
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Are you going to want to mod the car?
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RichR
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quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
I kept mine outside for years and never had a problem but just recently ive found some bubbling on the clam (all fibreglass cars suffer so dont think its just a vx trait) its to do with the frost getting in over the years.
That's such bollocks on the part of the builders if it's true-what you're describing is osmosis and in this day and age, it shouldn't be happening-remember that boats live in water permanently and see more weather than a car will ever see and you never hear of osmosis happening - it's just lazy on the car company's part to not use the correct resin systems to prevent these issues.
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gavin18787
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quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
Are you going to want to mod the car?
I will say no. But will probably end up with a few tweeks 
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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chris_uk
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quote:
Originally posted by RichR
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Originally posted by chris_uk
I kept mine outside for years and never had a problem but just recently ive found some bubbling on the clam (all fibreglass cars suffer so dont think its just a vx trait) its to do with the frost getting in over the years.
That's such bollocks on the part of the builders if it's true-what you're describing is osmosis and in this day and age, it shouldn't be happening-remember that boats live in water permanently and see more weather than a car will ever see and you never hear of osmosis happening - it's just lazy on the car company's part to not use the correct resin systems to prevent these issues.
yup but these cars panels are not 20" thick..
bear in mind these cars were made 14 years ago.
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chris_uk
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quote:
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Originally posted by chris_uk
Are you going to want to mod the car?
I will say no. But will probably end up with a few tweeks
a 2.2 Sc Vx will beat 90% of anything you come across on the roads, they are good for 160mph and will do -60 in under 4.5 seconds. couple that with R888's (or similar) and decent shocks and you will have a decent motor on the road and track.
my 380bhp map just came back with a limiter on it for 300kph lol
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djgritt
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quote:
Originally posted by RichR
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Originally posted by chris_uk
I kept mine outside for years and never had a problem but just recently ive found some bubbling on the clam (all fibreglass cars suffer so dont think its just a vx trait) its to do with the frost getting in over the years.
That's such bollocks on the part of the builders if it's true-what you're describing is osmosis and in this day and age, it shouldn't be happening-remember that boats live in water permanently and see more weather than a car will ever see and you never hear of osmosis happening - it's just lazy on the car company's part to not use the correct resin systems to prevent these issues.
This is a bit of a guess, but I imagine a lightweight Sports Car isn't designed to be submerged in Water for the majority of it's lifetime.
Therefore the Panels aren't going to require/have as much protection as is required for a Marine application...
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gavin18787
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quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
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Originally posted by gavin18787
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Originally posted by chris_uk
Are you going to want to mod the car?
I will say no. But will probably end up with a few tweeks
a 2.2 Sc Vx will beat 90% of anything you come across on the roads, they are good for 160mph and will do -60 in under 4.5 seconds. couple that with R888's (or similar) and decent shocks and you will have a decent motor on the road and track.
my 380bhp map just came back with a limiter on it for 300kph lol
I think the 2.2 will be for me. As it will be nice na power. Dont want too much as it would be my first rwd car
would hope to keep it standard engine wise at least for a good while
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gavin18787
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This has come up for sale 10mins from me. Might go have a look as I havent had a proper look round a vx220
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/vauxhall/vx220/vauxhall-vx220-16v-------------------2003/2396185
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Ben G
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That looks clean. Really like them, especially with the turbo body parts.
Bloke in work had one for a while, was amazed at how low it actually is.
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chris_uk
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Exhaust isnt central so have a look for craash damage on the back, its probably just an ill fitting exhaust tbh but just check. Also there is nothing about the rad which imo should always be factored into the cost of buying a vx220, you ideally want to look at one which has had all the niggly jobs done already because you will have to do them eventually.
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gavin18787
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Rad?
Is there a buyers guide anywhere?
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chris_uk
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Radiator .
There is one on vx220.org.uk somewhere.
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RichR
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quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
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Originally posted by RichR
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Originally posted by chris_uk
I kept mine outside for years and never had a problem but just recently ive found some bubbling on the clam (all fibreglass cars suffer so dont think its just a vx trait) its to do with the frost getting in over the years.
That's such bollocks on the part of the builders if it's true-what you're describing is osmosis and in this day and age, it shouldn't be happening-remember that boats live in water permanently and see more weather than a car will ever see and you never hear of osmosis happening - it's just lazy on the car company's part to not use the correct resin systems to prevent these issues.
yup but these cars panels are not 20" thick..
bear in mind these cars were made 14 years ago.
Our hull shell laminate is 6-8mm thick which will be similar to a car and we service boats we built 25 years ago, none of which have osmosis. The difference in price between an isothalyc and orthothaylic resin system is negligible as well and as such, it's nothing to do with the design criteria and more to do with penny pinching as the cost is virtually the same panel to panel and weight isn't affected-I can see no genuine reason why they're using the wrong resin system especially given that they're likely chopper gunned which is exactly the same as a bathtub and they don't suffer from osmosis either!!
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gavin18787
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quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
Radiator .
There is one on vx220.org.uk somewhere.
found it 
pistonheads did a feature too which was good
Yer all ally rad
rear hub bolts
timing chain rattle
loose door's
subframe damage
toe arms
bushes upto date
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Jambo
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Go and drive one Gav.
I have driven a mid engined car and ok it was a supercar but it was the balance that threw me. Might be my driving style but it just felt so "right" not really fussed by other setups now, if I go back into owning a proper performance car then I want something mid engined. Can feel each end is "lighter" and feels like you are the engine as such. Be seriously tempted with either option tbh
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taylorboosh
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Go and drive one Gav.
I have driven a mid engined car and ok it was a supercar but it was the balance that threw me. Might be my driving style but it just felt so "right" not really fussed by other setups now, if I go back into owning a proper performance car then I want something mid engined. Can feel each end is "lighter" and feels like you are the engine as such. Be seriously tempted with either option tbh
Flol last week you fancied a merc saloon with a huge engine...
(Dont take this like im saying your full of shit/dreamer... As obviously you have owned some tasty cars, just think you like me and can never make your mind up)
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ed
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The only thing I have to say about Elise (an VX220 for that matter) handling is that they take physics and say a big fuck you to it. The way the things corner is unreal!
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Tomnova16
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Loved my vx220
http://www.lemass.co.uk/ for all your automotive/bodyshop needs
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