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Poll: EU exit or stay?
LEAVE 65 (63.11%)
STAY 38 (36.89%)


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3CorsaMeal
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Originally posted by Ian
Vote origin |>50| for the recount petition:

Vatican City (VA) : 42199
North Korea (KP) : 24865
France (FR) : 20283
Australia (AU) : 12888
Spain (ES) : 12884
United States (US) : 11878
Germany (DE) : 7738
Gibraltar (GI) : 4403
Canada (CA) : 4402
New Zealand (NZ) : 3961
Netherlands (NL) : 3431
Ireland (IE) : 3372
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands (GS) : 3338
British Antarctic Territory (BAT) : 2735
Italy (IT) : 2718
Switzerland (CH) : 2515
Belgium (BE) : 2420
Hong Kong (HK) : 2284
United Arab Emirates (AE) : 2237
Sweden (SE) : 1383
Singapore (SG) : 1382
Portugal (PT) : 1169
St Vincent (VC) : 1143
South Africa (ZA) : 1087
Austria (AT) : 908
Denmark (DK) : 875
Cyprus (CY) : 832
Japan (JP) : 802
Greece (GR) : 765
Luxembourg (LU) : 667
Norway (NO) : 639
Israel (IL) : 606
Bermuda (BM) : 583
Jersey (JE) : 546
Thailand (TH) : 529
Malta (MT) : 501
Finland (FI) : 479
China (CN) : 471
Isle of Man (IM) : 462
Czech Republic (CZ) : 414
India (IN) : 326
Guernsey (GG) : 320
Qatar (QA) : 302
Malaysia (MY) : 290
Turkey (TR) : 290
Poland (PL) : 288
Bulgaria (BG) : 253
Hungary (HU) : 245
Brazil (BR) : 224
Mexico (MX) : 170
Romania (RO) : 165
Pitcairn Island (PN) : 161
Saudi Arabia (SA) : 158
Kenya (KE) : 146
South Korea (KR) : 139
Nepal (NP) : 133
Cayman Islands (KY) : 125
Egypt (EG) : 124
Philippines (PH) : 123
Vietnam (VN) : 122
Russia (RU) : 116
Indonesia (ID) : 113
Taiwan (TW) : 110
Argentina (AR) : 109
Benin (BJ) : 103
Pakistan (PK) : 103
Aruba (AW) : 101
Ukraine (UA) : 93
Bahrain (BH) : 92
Iceland (IS) : 91
Monaco (MC) : 85
Chile (CL) : 81
Oman (OM) : 81
Uruguay (UY) : 81
Colombia (CO) : 79
Lebanon (LB) : 70
Lithuania (LT) : 65
Slovakia (SK) : 63
Tanzania (TZ) : 60
Trinidad and Tobago (TT) : 60
Kuwait (KW) : 57
Mauritius (MU) : 56
Peru (PE) : 56
Jordan (JO) : 55
Barbados (BB) : 52
British Indian Ocean Territory (IO) : 51
Uganda (UG) : 51

Full list - http://pastebin.com/qP4dxWYv


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Is being investigated for fraud now. People signing more than once
Ben G
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Where are the sandwich islands? I'd like to live there.
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How controversial would that be - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/26/nicola-sturgeon-threatens-to-block-brexit-in-face-of-english-fur/
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Where is the UK on that petition origin list?
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UK is 3,144,676 from the JSON format data
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Was 2988156 when I got that list so its either had more interest or those Vatican and NK have just been edited
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Said on bbc that 77k fraudulent signatures have been removed. Cameron has said there won't be a revote anyway
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Just seen the creator of the petition has said he created it with the likelihood of remain winning and that the remain camp have hijacked it
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When can we start rounding up the darkies?

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/26/racist-incidents-feared-to-be-linked-to-brexit-result-reported-in-england-and-wales
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The Brexit vote hasn't created racism.

Might have given it an outlet, but it was there anyway.

Don't overlook the fact that the racist right hasn't had any voice at all in any meaningful way for many years. The left has created a situation - and don't take this to be conspiracy theory - I've seen anti-indigenous discrimination all over the place in my 12 years in education. You can't make the white man feel second class and expect for it all to be fine down the line.

All this referendum has done is brought to the surface all the ill-feeling that's been bubbling for years, shame its going to fuck the UK economy in the process but perhaps if we hadn't been so left-leaning and if all these issues weren't complete taboo you'd have solved it beforehand.

Right now I've no surprise you're seeing 'racist incidents'. That's what happens when you remove the ability to discuss anything then suddenly give people the leverage under which to turn it nasty. I did underestimate the weight of public opinion but you obviously have many, many people who feel a protest vote is the watershed they needed.
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Why won't the bbc post amy positive stories such as Aston Martin confirming they will be investing 200m in a plant in Wales post Brexit.

It's like they are reporting from.a very biased remain point of view


They were going ahead with it back in February and apart from the FT and a handful of car sites/blogs with articles linking their £200m spending and the Brexit, i've yet to see anything similar pop on any of the three major UK TV news outlets (Sky, ITV and BBC) nor within a number of newspapers (Telegraph, Guardian, Evening Standard, Times etc).

Sounds like it's all a bit of a non-story Steve rather than BBC attempting to bias their reporting towards 'leavers' or 'remainers'

Edit - Should add Channel 4 to the UK major TV news outlets but i don't watch it so meh......

[Edited on 26-06-2016 by Dom]
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And the false story about Morgan Stanley I posted earlier?
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This still going on? Brexit is so last week.
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And the false story about Morgan Stanley I posted earlier?


Did the BBC actually report it after the tweet from the BBC presenter? I can't remember, although The Independent reported something similar and i wouldn't be surprised if others did too (if i was Davey i'd waste time Googling).

Granted, it should have been fact checked but it's always a rush to get news out (be the first etc) and there's plenty more cases of outlets falsely reporting.

I'm still not convinced there's a conspiracy here with the BBC's reporting. True, they're not completely unbiased but they're certainly far less biased than other outlets (Sky, RT etc etc)
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Of course it's a non story. the media don't want to make it a story because God forbid it would be something positive post brexit
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Definatley something to do with the SNP and politics somehow, definatley - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36635086

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Of course it's a non story. the media don't want to make it a story because God forbid it would be something positive post brexit


But why single out the BBC when very few outlets have reported on a statement that re-confirms another statement made five months previous?
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I admit most of them are probably at it. I was following the bbc because I expected some sort of impartiality from them.
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Thoughts on this

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1356911747656293&id=127439507270196
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I admit most of them are probably at it. I was following the bbc because I expected some sort of impartiality from them.

That fact that majority of outlets didn't report it would suggest that it's more down to newsworthy-ness rather than bias reporting.

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Thoughts on this - https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1356911747656293&id=127439507270196

Only thought is on his statement that "it'll be choppy waters for a few weeks...". There's going to be uncertainty over the next 27/28 months while the exit negotiations happen, so i can't see the markets fully stabilising within 'a few weeks'.
Tbh i don't believe the next two years is the real problem, it's what happens when we do eventually leave that could be the issue.

Otherwise the entire report is Digby saying "Get on with it" which i have no issue with.
We've been (personal opinion) dealt an absolute blow which could completely screw this country but there isn't a lot we/us/'remainers' can do other than buck up and 'get on with it'.
If it does go to pot then i'll try and migrate elsewhere whilst telling you 'leavers' "i told you so"

[Edited on 26-06-2016 by Dom]
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People on my facebook are stocking up on food as they think "anything could happen"
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People on my facebook are stocking up on food as they think "anything could happen"

Unless they're stocking up on long-life items for when we leave, then not a lot will happen whilst we remain in the EU
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Ive cashed in all my pound coins seeing as they are worthless now.
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100s of other countries are doing just fine outside the eu. I don't think we will be worse off at all.

As mentioned we now have access to many other markets now to make up any shortfall on losses we may have through tariffs if any on trading with other eu countries

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