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JonnyJ

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19th Jun 12 at 14:46

You already do.

You are aware, despite the win we were shite against Sweden? Rooney is far, far, far superior at holding up the ball and playing that deep lying forward role than anyone else in our squad. To not play him because you might hurt Andy Carroll's feelings is fucking ludicrous.

Rooney and Wellbeck up top tonight, may as well stick with a front two that play with each other week in week out in the league.

Ben G

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19th Jun 12 at 14:48

and you are well aware of how awful rooney was 2 years ago, despite being fucking epic for man united at the time.

JonnyJ

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19th Jun 12 at 14:50

Very well aware. But this is a different system and manager. The whole squad was fucking shite two years ago, not just Rooney

Ben G

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19th Jun 12 at 14:52

agreed. i still don't think he should start though. impact sub at around 60 minutes along with theo. ox start.

then again, i'm not mike basset.

Nath

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19th Jun 12 at 15:07

Ben, go have a lay down mate.

Ben G

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19th Jun 12 at 15:10

you'll be the one needing a lay down at half 9 tonight when you realise i was speaking the truth.

Fro

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19th Jun 12 at 15:12

Arsenal are going to win the game

Utd will throw it away

Russ

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19th Jun 12 at 15:14

quote:
Originally posted by Eck

quote:
Originally posted by Nath

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Still stand by the opinion I'm more wary of meeting Germany than Spain

No shit.

I'd still be fearing Spain more. Germany won't be in the final.

check first post mate, they finish runners up

JonnyJ

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19th Jun 12 at 15:16

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
you'll be the one needing a lay down at half 9 tonight when you realise i was speaking the truth.

How you going to prove that like?

If we lose are you going to visit some alternate universe where England didnt start with Rooney, won and video the match to prove to us all you were right?

Russ

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19th Jun 12 at 15:18

i hope they have plastic plates in this alrernate universe

mwg

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19th Jun 12 at 15:23

I hope Rooney scores just to send Ben in to a rage

Ben G

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19th Jun 12 at 15:31

quote:
Originally posted by Russ
i hope they have plastic plates in this alrernate universe

kennySRi

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19th Jun 12 at 16:21

However shite rooney maybe at times for England, starting him with Wellbeck is a must.

Russ

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19th Jun 12 at 16:55

@SkySports: Sky sources - England team v Ukraine: Hart; Johnson, Terry, Lescott, Cole; Milner, Gerrard, Parker, Young; Rooney, Welbeck.

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19th Jun 12 at 17:04

quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ Rooney and Wellbeck up top tonight, may as well stick with a front two that play with each other week in week out in the league.

agreed. carroll has 'another option'

Hammer

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19th Jun 12 at 17:07

Find it very strange how no one is seeming to believe Ukraine can win this one

Not even English media but just everyone in general. Not saying they will win but they're a decent enough international side and they are at home.

Robbo

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19th Jun 12 at 17:08

and, crucially, they must win

Steve

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19th Jun 12 at 17:09

quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
Find it very strange how no one is seeming to believe Ukraine can win this one

Not even English media but just everyone in general. Not saying they will win but they're a decent enough international side and they are at home.

deffo

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19th Jun 12 at 17:22

quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
Find it very strange how no one is seeming to believe Ukraine can win this one

Not even English media but just everyone in general. Not saying they will win but they're a decent enough international side and they are at home.

maybe everyones being optimistic for once instead of cunting them off all the time?

JonnyJ

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19th Jun 12 at 17:26

quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
Find it very strange how no one is seeming to believe Ukraine can win this one

Not even English media but just everyone in general. Not saying they will win but they're a decent enough international side and they are at home.

I'm not, I'd actually have preferred us to go into this game needing to win, as backwards as that sounds.

If it was that way, they would have had the pressure of expectation from a big crowd, now they can play without fear.

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19th Jun 12 at 17:34

Getting very bored of the "Rooney our savour" reports on every thing about the match tonight.

He's good but he's not that good.

kennySRi

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19th Jun 12 at 17:38

quote:
Originally posted by Rob_Quads
Getting very bored of the "Rooney our savour" reports on every thing about the match tonight.

He's good but he's not that good.

He's just better than everyone else we have so you cant blame them really

As for expecting an England win, im far from thinking that.

Without checking the 'mini' league what is needed tonight? If France win then do we just need a draw or win? What if we lose? I cant even remember who is where in the group

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19th Jun 12 at 17:41

Rooney hasn't scored a competitive goal in a major competition since 2004

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19th Jun 12 at 17:42

quote:
Originally posted by Rob_Quads
Getting very bored of the "Rooney our savour" reports on every thing about the match tonight.

He's good but he's not that good.

Knowing him he'll kick someone in the bollocks, get sent off, and then he'll be the saviour when he returns for 2014 WC qualy.

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19th Jun 12 at 17:43

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Rooney hasn't scored a competitive goal in a major competition since 2004

tbf to rooney though, in 06 didnt he have the ankle injury? then we didnt qual in 08, and 10 was just a diasaster all round anyway

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