l33t corsa
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sigh
honda bashers
let me clear a few things up
lmao.
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01+ All Civic Type R's (I-Vtec - so the new one) - 202bhp
More like 197hp. Jap spec is 215ps iirc.
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98+ old civic type-r (b18c engine 1.8 dohc vtec) - 180bhp
No. The engine is the B16B 1.6, 185ps. Also car was 96+
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81 - 99 civic 1.6 VTI (same engine) (b16a b16c 1.6 dohc vtec) 168bhp STANDARD
B16A1 - UK 150hp - 90-91 Civic & CRX VT. Jap spec was 160ps iirc.
B16A2 - UK 158hp - 92-00 Civic & CRX VTI. Jap spec was 170ps.
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95 JDM civic VTI (d16z4 sohc 1.6 vtec 130bhp)
Japanese Honda engines don't have a number after the original engine code. Also the engine was a 1.5 D15B, 3 stage vtec.
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98 civic 1.5 LSI (sohc vtec 115bhp)
Available from 96. Also it's 1.5i LS.
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94 civic 1.5 ESI (sohc vtec d16z4 125bhp)
Available from92. ESI is a 1.6.
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98 civic 1.4 LS (sohc None vtec 98bhp)
again 96 on. IIRC it's 1.4i. About 90hp I think.
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Robbo
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PMSL... who reckons the new Type-R's have 202bhp  200ps or as l33t said... 197bhp... JDM's have 212bhp (215ps) due to using 100ron as std.
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glasgow_corsa_c
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
not the Type R
the normal 1.6i new shape...
108bhp
114mph top speed
0-60 = 10.4 secs
not much better than a 1.4 sport
Is it the NEW model? 2003/2004 ?
if so then yes it is shite, i was gonan buy one then had it for the wekend on test and it was shit!
Got a mgzr instead which was 100 x better spec'd and faster
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glasgow_corsa_c
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
The civic i meant is the newest Vtec, not Vti....
quite a basic one, but doesn't look too bad, its in all the papers and stuff at the mo....Grp 6 insurance
u on about the base car or the Type S ?
Typoe S has the same engine but looks identical to the type r , appart fromthe S has 16s and no rear spoiler on outside.
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Actually the Type S is a 5 door 'sporty' model... it has the same engine but is detuned to 160bhp...
The Sport is what u r thinkin of... has same front back and sides but no spoiler and has 16s as u said but it has a 1.6 not a 2 litre
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The Sport has a 1.6 VTEC BTW
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glasgow_corsa_c
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Originally posted by Robbo
Actually the Type S is a 5 door 'sporty' model... it has the same engine but is detuned to 160bhp...
The Sport is what u r thinkin of... has same front back and sides but no spoiler and has 16s as u said but it has a 1.6 not a 2 litre
aye but a think its still a type s in 3 door for 2004.... Fook knows, it was a 3door, one model down from type r...looked like one had a 1.6 Vtech and was shit
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Originally posted by Robbo
The Sport has a 1.6 VTEC BTW
and is slow onthe road.
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Originally posted by glasgow_corsa_c
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Originally posted by Robbo
Actually the Type S is a 5 door 'sporty' model... it has the same engine but is detuned to 160bhp...
The Sport is what u r thinkin of... has same front back and sides but no spoiler and has 16s as u said but it has a 1.6 not a 2 litre
aye but a think its still a type s in 3 door for 2004.... Fook knows, it was a 3door, one model down from type r...looked like one had a 1.6 Vtech and was shit
No, the Sport is the 3dr (the 2nd level under the type r. The Type S is and always will be a 5 dr.
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Originally posted by glasgow_corsa_c
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Originally posted by Robbo
The Sport has a 1.6 VTEC BTW
and is slow onthe road.
I would have thought it was quite quick
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l33t corsa
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Originally posted by Lucky B
Try reading http://www.honda.org.uk/honda_integra_type_r_vs_civic_type_r/honda_integra_type_r_vs_civic_type_r.html
It mentions 167bhp AND 185bhp for the 1.6 CTR power figures.
Civic Type R EK is definately not 167hp. That's about the same as the Jap spec SIR (VTI in UK) engine, and the Type R engine is different.
http://asia.vtec.net/beystock/honda/civicr/
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Originally posted by Robbo
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Originally posted by glasgow_corsa_c
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Originally posted by Robbo
The Sport has a 1.6 VTEC BTW
and is slow onthe road.
I would have thought it was quite quick
well i had this on atest for the weekend and a mgzr 105 .
Civic jsut felt heavy an big onthe road....mg was nippy as fuck and better spec'd than the civic
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Originally posted by glasgow_corsa_c
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
not the Type R
the normal 1.6i new shape...
108bhp
114mph top speed
0-60 = 10.4 secs
not much better than a 1.4 sport
Is it the NEW model? 2003/2004 ?
if so then yes it is shite, i was gonan buy one then had it for the wekend on test and it was shit!
Got a mgzr instead which was 100 x better spec'd and faster
Yeah but its not a 100 x better car is it. Its just a Rover 25 with a body kit. Would sooner have a civic
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glasgow_corsa_c
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Originally posted by whitter45
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Originally posted by glasgow_corsa_c
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
not the Type R
the normal 1.6i new shape...
108bhp
114mph top speed
0-60 = 10.4 secs
not much better than a 1.4 sport
Is it the NEW model? 2003/2004 ?
if so then yes it is shite, i was gonan buy one then had it for the wekend on test and it was shit!
Got a mgzr instead which was 100 x better spec'd and faster
Yeah but its not a 100 x better car is it. Its just a Rover 25 with a body kit. Would sooner have a civic
aye watever, its a rover 25 shell.. suspensionis diff, exahsut system diff... interior etc.
Still, my choice was the civic or the mg, mg was better spec'd,faster and 3 grand cheaperr
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whitter45
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Originally posted by glasgow_corsa_c
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Originally posted by whitter45
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Originally posted by glasgow_corsa_c
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
not the Type R
the normal 1.6i new shape...
108bhp
114mph top speed
0-60 = 10.4 secs
not much better than a 1.4 sport
Is it the NEW model? 2003/2004 ?
if so then yes it is shite, i was gonan buy one then had it for the wekend on test and it was shit!
Got a mgzr instead which was 100 x better spec'd and faster
Yeah but its not a 100 x better car is it. Its just a Rover 25 with a body kit. Would sooner have a civic
aye watever, its a rover 25 shell.. suspensionis diff, exahsut system diff... interior etc.
Still, my choice was the civic or the mg, mg was better spec'd,faster and 3 grand cheaperr
Yeah fair enough its ur choice but a Civic is hardly a shit car and u wil lose three grand more on a mg cos everyone has got one and its likely to fuck up cos its rover based
But its ur decision mate and if u like it then fair enough
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the old civic type r's have got 167bhp but are stripped out and weigh less than a thousand kg which makes them rapid they also have lsd.
no they haven't, the import VTi's etc.. have that power, the EK Type R's have about 196bhp.
Matt
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New type R has 197bhp, and a lightened fly wheel to reduce 0 -60 from 6.8 to 6.2 seconds. Old 1.6 VTI had 167bhp
 weren't they 158bhp?
The UK spec EG6 vti had 158 and the import SIR-II had 167
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the old civic type r's have got 167bhp but are stripped out and weigh less than a thousand kg which makes them rapid they also have lsd.
no they haven't, the import VTi's etc.. have that power, the EK Type R's have about 196bhp.
Matt
The Ek's Type R's have 185ps, as listed above. They were only available as an import in this country.
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GIBBS
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which equates to about 196 bhp am i right?
And yes i know their only an import 
this is in the few car's that will be my next actual car.
Matt
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whitter45
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don't u divide the PS number by 1.07 to get te BHP
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GIBBS
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185 PS = 182.45 BHP, I may be wrong but I still believe them to be more.
Matt
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l33t corsa
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Originally posted by GIBBS
185 PS = 182.45 BHP, I may be wrong but I still believe them to be more.
Matt
PS is more than HP. Example - new EP Civic Type R is 200ps or 197hp.
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didnt read dunc's earlier post! I will back anything dunc say's.. he's the honda god!
oh and dunc, yes i can get those old school silva's
Matt
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oh and dunc, yes i can get those old school silva's
Matt
about time too how much? 
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GIBBS
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cheap mate very cheap 
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