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quote:
Originally posted by jr
is that F13 i take it, as i was aware that there was a few diffrent versions



Sorry I was going off this quote

quote:
Originally posted by jr
as far as im aware olly the f13 and f15 have idnetical ratios apart from 5th in the f15, which is longer, so possibly



Also some of those will be f15 others f13 i would expect the 16v's to be f15s
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once had 130mph in my nova 1.4 8v dunno if it was right tho! seemed quite fast but anything felt fast after driving a 1.2 8v corsa!
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(BTW this was done in my 1.4 bored out TB'd, Turbo'd, cam'd 8V motor that had an extra 8V added at a later date )
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What engine size?
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Sorry question answered. Cheers
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did a poo before i went out in my 1.4 8v.....
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*I would just like to point out that Broster is a homo*
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quote:
Originally posted by K11 NNL
Sorry to stand out alone here, but my mates 1.4 16v corsa sport (Brocade yellow one put froward for Doncaster)was doing 120mph....whether the speedo was out a wee bit or not, i can defo vouch that it was hitting those speeds.
Also my old Nova sri 1.4 8v did 132mph flat out.


You defo vouch that it was hitting those speeds? How? by looking at the speedo infront of you thats inacurate? or by following behind and saying 'well on my which is also inacurate speedo it's showing 120 so he is doing 120!'

Unless your using GPS equipment or have a police gun shot at you, you cannot tell me your speed is accurate sorry!

I had 130 mph on my clock in my 106 gti and it only showed at 122 mph on the road angel! with GPS! (This was before I got my wake up call and brought me back to reality!)

My Corsa Sxi 1.2 16v, had 117 mph on the clocks!!! I was probably only doing 106 mph.

Not only can your speedo be inacurate to start with. but things like (change in wheel size can affect speedo) - but also as you speed up the force acting outwards on things spinning (go on one of those rides in the park and spin it round, it'll try to chuck you off), so your tyres increase size as you get faster and faster... when your doing over 100 mph your speedo will be like 8-10 mph out (give or take either way)

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quote:
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*I would just like to point out that Broster is a homo*


and you love it!
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I totally agree with you i can not 100% say that it was defo doing 120 just by what was reading on the clock. Just what you say i was only saying what was reading on the clock. By saying i can vouch i was only meaning i was there and saw what the clock said.
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You have a talking clock in your car?

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Matt H
*I would just like to point out that Broster is a homo*


and you love it!




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Opppps...slip of the finger lol

[Edited on 02-03-2005 by K11 NNL]
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well......i dont even have a rev counter and i only been 95, wont handle much more, poor ole 1.4 8v!
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Here's a question its my understanding that the V grills have digital speedos and not speedo cables like older corsas...so no matter how big or small your wheels the digital speedo will still be accurate.
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haha my corsa was a v-grill...

your talking about a electric speedo 'so the needle is turned round by a motor, which is electric' - rather than being pulled by a cable.

So what? doesn't mean it's accurate.

think about it for a sec - HOW does it know how fast it's going... It's only a sensor looking at how quick a wheel is going around or something.

Unless the car has GPS, your talking babble.
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no as it is fed off the gear box....gear box wil lspin the same but putting bigger wheels in effectivly changes the gear ratios
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By law your car cannot leave the factory with a speedo that reads less than the real life road speed. They are allowed to show 10% faster than you actually are though. So if your's shows 70 there is a good chance you might only be doing 63. Two of the guys at worked checked out their Focus ST170's and one was doing 68 whilst reading 70 and the other was showing 70 whilst doing 63. Verified by GPS.

Top speed of my standard VX is 135 according to the brochure. No idea what that reflects to on the speedo though. Speedo goes upto 160 though so next time I am on that private road I could find out.
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i wouldnt think it would change the gear ratio as you are not changing any cogs in the gear box..but it would take longer for it to rev out.
I was only trying to prove a point that it was more accurate than a speedo cable...am i right?

[Edited on 02-03-2005 by K11 NNL]
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i wouldnt think it would change the gear ratio as you are not changing any cogs in the gear box..but it would take longer for it to rev out.
I was only trying to prove a point that it was more accurate than a speedo cable...am i right?

[Edited on 02-03-2005 by K11 NNL]


it is changing the gear ratio tho, its like adding to the final drive
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yes i supose in a way it will change the ratio...but not literally...sorry again for the confusion
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quote:
Originally posted by ainsley_brader
As for the ratios i dont know them all of the top of my head and was too lazy to go and look.

Also the only real way to know what you have is to pull it apart and count it.

But

Here are a few examples
alll figures are ???:1 unless stated

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th rev fd. (models fitted too)
3.73 2.14 1.41 1.12 0.89 3.31 3.94 (1.0l 12v 1997)
3.73 2.14 1.41 1.12 0.89 3.31 3.74 (1.2i, 1.4 16v, 1.6 16v, 1997. 1.6 16v, 1994)
3.73 1.96 1.31 0.95 0.76 3.31 4.18 (1.4 hi torq{8v} 1997)
3.73 1.96 1.31 0.95 0.76 3.31 3.74 (1.5TD 1997)
3.73 1.96 1.31 0.95 0.76 3.31 3.55 (1.7D 1997)

3.55 1.96 1.30 0.89 0.71 3.31 4.18 (1.2i, 1.4i hi torq 1994)
3.55 1.96 1.30 0.89 0.71 3.31 3.74 (1.2i e drive, 1.5TD 1994)
3.55 2.14 1.43 1.12 0.89 3.31 3.94 (1.4i 82PS, 1994)
3.55 1.96 1.30 0.89 0.71 3.31 3.94 (1.5d, 1994)


5 different examples of ratios fitted just in 1997

Edited to add 4 more examples from the 1994 range bear in ming i'm only looking at corsas and these boxes were also fitted to astras

[Edited on 02-03-2005 by ainsley_brader]


Where did you get that info from, because Haynes indicates that the F13 and F15 differ in 2nd gear and final drives
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my 1.4 16v has hit 125, was about hitting the limiter, wouldnt have got to 130 but as far as we know the speedo isn't out.

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