mwg
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I think his Corsa is stripped out
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SetH
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Ah I see, couldnt be arsed to look through the garage.
Moral of this story is power to weight ratio owns. small BHP increases on very light cars using minor mods can make a worthwhile difference imo.
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Sooty
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Im yet to see a standard 106GTi RR'd at anything less than 130bhp
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K2 GTi
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my dash doesn't rattle 
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M16KE B
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my dash doesn't rattle
my girlfriends doesnt either. actually feels a pretty solid car imo
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Dave A
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Originally posted by SetH
Moral of this story is power to weight ratio owns. small BHP increases on very light cars using minor mods can make a worthwhile difference imo.
ctr = 197 bhp and 1204kg = 166 bhp per tonne
106 = 120 bhp and 900kg = 135 bhp per tonne
mine = 170 bhp and 900kg = 192 bhp per tonne
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Sooty
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im yet to see a 106gti that has a dashboard that doesnt rattle and try to escape onto the drivers knee
This hasnt happened on any of the GTi's ive had... however all have suffered from seal noise at 80+ 
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Ditch
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performing seal noises???
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Sooty
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do they suffer windscreen wiper escapism syndrome at 110+ like a corsa does? my wipers are gonna fly off one day
yeah my first ones wipers used to creep up above 100 lol
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Steve
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iv got them wipers with the spoilers on, adds BHP
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Ditch
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do they suffer windscreen wiper escapism syndrome at 110+ like a corsa does? my wipers are gonna fly off one day
One of my wipers went flying up on my old Astra GTE 16v...
was doing about 130 leptons an hour, when it lifted up and wrapped itself around the wingmirror
good old vauxhall!!
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Carl
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Originally posted by Dave A
ok then.
ctr = 197 bhp and 1204kg = 166 bhp per tonne
106 = 120 bhp and 900kg = 135 bhp per tonne
mine = 170 bhp and 900kg = 192 bhp per tonne
but then the 106 has no torque compared to the ctr anyway so its a pointless way of working it out
You were one mentioned that how can a 106 134bhp keep up with a 200bhp CTR. using the above is a bit more accurate and shows why it hasn't got the gap you perceived.
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Sooty
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its more like 130-140bhp and 900kg for the 106's
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Sooty
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i like the way someone says the ctr has tourque. thats lies. they have none at all
I disagree with you, for a 2.0 16v car it has quite a bit... 140lb/ft + i believe
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Carl
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Originally posted by Sooty
its more like 130-140bhp and 900kg for the 106's
Yes but if he would have put that then the figures would have been even closer and his first statement would been even worse.
[Edited on 23-06-2006 by Carl]
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Sooty
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lol aye
i just cant stand these people who spend £££ on corsa's and get kicks from people driving nice standard cars with interiors intact and dont sound like tractors
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Sooty
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Originally posted by muppetsport
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Originally posted by Sooty
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Originally posted by muppetsport
i like the way someone says the ctr has tourque. thats lies. they have none at all
I disagree with you, for a 2.0 16v car it has quite a bit... 140lb/ft + i believe
so, 200bhp and 140lb/ft compared to an xe's 150bhp and 145'ish lb/ft
doesnt seem a great deal of tourque for a 200bhp 2liter 16v to me?????
147 lb-ft @5900 rpm
this is fine for a 2.0 car the extra power is produced via VVT of the VTEC giving the feel of no torque... it doesnt matter though, its still a reasonably quick car no matter what
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SetH
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
quote:
Originally posted by SetH
Moral of this story is power to weight ratio owns. small BHP increases on very light cars using minor mods can make a worthwhile difference imo.
why the rolling eyes? you dont agree that small bhp increases on a light car can make a worthwhile difference?
Take an elise for example, decent induction, decat and zorst makes a noticeable difference. Do the same to a 1200-1300kg vehicle and the difference is not really noticeable.
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SetH
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agreed 147lb/ft for a 2.0 lump is about right. people compare it to the 200bhp figure and then scream its got no torque.
No point looking at the paper figures, anyone got a RR plot for a standard CTR?
Whats the torque spread like, im guessing it will be very peaky over a short rev range, making peak torque at 5900rpm isnt excatly great driveability for a road car. But like mentioned in other threds once your in the powerband i guess that becomes irrelevant, unless there is a hill of course.
[Edited on 23-06-2006 by SetH]
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Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by SetH
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Originally posted by Dave A
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Originally posted by SetH
Moral of this story is power to weight ratio owns. small BHP increases on very light cars using minor mods can make a worthwhile difference imo.
why the rolling eyes? you dont agree that small bhp increases on a light car can make a worthwhile difference?
Take an elise for example, decent induction, decat and zorst makes a noticeable difference. Do the same to a 1200-1300kg vehicle and the difference is not really noticeable.
not sure why I put the
I totally agree with your statement.
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SetH
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Ah right ok, no worries fella
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Dave A
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how does a 2 litre corsa compare to the 106 gti with minor mods
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Sooty
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Originally posted by Dave A
how does a 2 litre corsa compare to the 106 gti with minor mods
bout the same... ive seen a stardard 106gti run 15.0 and a few with just exhaust manifold and filter etc run 14's
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Jason Iles
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If I was driving the Type R Dave I would have beat you. Fact
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Ditch
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15.2 @90mph in my GTE 16v... with crap 60ft time too!
so in a corsa shell the XE should be 14's all day long
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