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topshot_2k
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27th Feb 07 at 12:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i would comfortably put money on a 172 being quicker around a track than a standard 106 gti or VTS
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there are vids that would prove otherwise
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I'd vote the 106 personally.
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depends if the driver is a complete novice
Scotty C
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I love how This thread is about Pulsar's and clio's and yet 106 GTi's STILL come into the discussion
Cupra Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
i would comfortably put money on a 172 being quicker around a track than a standard 106 gti or VTS


why is it a 2.0 corsa gets slated due to the weight of the engine and it would be shit on a track compared to a 1.6 corsa yet a 2.0 clio would be much better than a 1.6 106?
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
I love how This thread is about Pulsar's and clio's and yet 106 GTi's STILL come into the discussion


I think I may responsible for that this time
Cupra Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
I love how This thread is about Pulsar's and clio's and yet 106 GTi's STILL come into the discussion
How quickly a thread gets out of control over something that has nothing to do with the threads intentions make me piss myself!
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I think everyday on this forum there is a thread about 106GTi's
Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by Cupra Steve
quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
i would comfortably put money on a 172 being quicker around a track than a standard 106 gti or VTS


why is it a 2.0 corsa gets slated due to the weight of the engine and it would be shit on a track compared to a 1.6 corsa yet a 2.0 clio would be much better than a 1.6 106?


Because the clio was desgined to carry the weight of the 2.0 lump, the corsa was not.
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because a 2 litre clio actually was designed to have that engine in new from the factory so the brakes and suspension is up to the job from standard rather than a tatty old corsa shell with a 15 year old smoky oil burning stove transplanted in with Gmaxspastik suspension and 10 year old rusty cavalier brakes.
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quote:
Originally posted by SXi_Tim
I think everyday on this forum there is a thread about 106GTi's


and this is the best one http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=342763
Cupra Steve
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quote:
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because a 2 litre clio actually was designed to have that engine in new from the factory so the brakes and suspension is up to the job from standard rather than a tatty old corsa shell with a 15 year old smoky oil burning stove transplanted in with Gmaxspastik suspension and 10 year old rusty cavalier brakes.
point taken! FPMSL @ Gmaxspastik
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
because a 2 litre clio actually was designed to have that engine in new from the factory so the brakes and suspension is up to the job from standard rather than a tatty old corsa shell with a 15 year old smoky oil burning stove transplanted in with Gmaxspastik suspension and 10 year old rusty cavalier brakes.


FLOL You really hate valvers don't you!!
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0-60 is a bad way to get a performance cars figures I think, you should look at the 0-100 really.

Clio 172 - 17.65
Pug 106 - 23.81
Pulsar GTI-R - 15.26

[Edited on 27-02-2007 by Stu]
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Well my encounter with one was rolling from about 50mph, and there was nothing in it!
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quote:
Originally posted by Stu
0-60 is a bad way to get a performance cars figures I think, you should look at the 0-100 really.

Clio 172 - 17.65
Pug 106 - 23.81


Holy fuck, thats quite a difference

Must be down to the torque differences after 60+mph
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quote:
Originally posted by Stu
0-60 is a bad way to get a performance cars figures I think, you should look at the 0-100 really.

Clio 172 - 17.65
Pug 106 - 23.81
Pulsar GTI-R - 15.26

[Edited on 27-02-2007 by Stu]


well my 106 got a 15.3 1/4 mile @91 mph so there was no way it was 23 seconds to 100

[Edited on 27-02-2007 by Steve]
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no, im just sick of people bringing sheddy bodged transplants to Vsport and expecting me to fix the wiring that has been covered in melted selloptape. and they always leave a puddle of black oil on the floor.

the C20XE engine is a great engine, just depends who does the fitting and if proper brakes and suspension is used to match.

sadly 80% are sheds.
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I just use the same website for all the stats I use. Would be even better if it gave some in gear figures tho!

I just think 0-60 is a bad way of gauging a cars real performance. There are too many factors 0-60 that dont give a true representation of what a car can do.
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quote:
Originally posted by Stu
0-60 is a bad way to get a performance cars figures I think, you should look at the 0-100 really.

Clio 172 - 17.65
Pug 106 - 23.81
Pulsar GTI-R - 15.26

If you look at those figures a Clio 182 and a Pulsar aint guna be that far apart on the road???

[Edited on 27-02-2007 by Stu]
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa sam
quote:
Originally posted by Stu
0-60 is a bad way to get a performance cars figures I think, you should look at the 0-100 really.

Clio 172 - 17.65
Pug 106 - 23.81
Pulsar GTI-R - 15.26

If you look at those figures a Clio 182 and a Pulsar aint guna be that far apart on the road???

[Edited on 27-02-2007 by Stu]



Yeah, totally agree. A bit of an off boost moment in the GTI-R and the Clio would be there! Afraid the 106 would still be a long way back tho!
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quote:
Originally posted by Stu
quote:
Originally posted by corsa sam
quote:
Originally posted by Stu
0-60 is a bad way to get a performance cars figures I think, you should look at the 0-100 really.

Clio 172 - 17.65
Pug 106 - 23.81
Pulsar GTI-R - 15.26

If you look at those figures a Clio 182 and a Pulsar aint guna be that far apart on the road???

[Edited on 27-02-2007 by Stu]



Yeah, totally agree. A bit of an off boost moment in the GTI-R and the Clio would be there! Afraid the 106 would still be a long way back tho!


Yeah mate im glad you found those stats makes me feel beta
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quote:
Originally posted by Stu
quote:
Originally posted by corsa sam
quote:
Originally posted by Stu
0-60 is a bad way to get a performance cars figures I think, you should look at the 0-100 really.

Clio 172 - 17.65
Pug 106 - 23.81
Pulsar GTI-R - 15.26

If you look at those figures a Clio 182 and a Pulsar aint guna be that far apart on the road???

[Edited on 27-02-2007 by Stu]



Yeah, totally agree. A bit of an off boost moment in the GTI-R and the Clio would be there! Afraid the 106 would still be a long way back tho!


id say 0-100 on the 106 was nearer the 18/19 mark hardly miles bac kis it

like i said has always been pretty level when against my mates 172 in the past ON A STRIP

[Edited on 27-02-2007 by Steve]
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He let you keep up Steve.

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