Tom
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
doesnt really take much more skill to hold down the throttle for longer
and why would you want it to be faster on the roads? the roads arent for racing on
[Edited on 28-05-2007 by Steve]
Have you ever taken your car to a track steve?
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Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom
quote:
Originally posted by Steve
doesnt really take much more skill to hold down the throttle for longer
and why would you want it to be faster on the roads? the roads arent for racing on
[Edited on 28-05-2007 by Steve]
Have you ever taken your car to a track steve?
not this one, but then iv only had it since jan
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Baskey
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hmmm was seriously thinking of getting a vxr but now i have my doubts
might just wait till the 'hot' versions of the the 197 are released (cup, f1 etc) and stick to renaults. My current clio sport has done me proud over the last few years
[Edited on 29-05-2007 by Baskey]
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neiliosxi
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What are the VXR's retailing at?
I've ordered a new megane 225 cup for £14.5k 
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jamie-lee
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dont go by one review by a touring car driver, drive both.
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ed
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For one thing, the VXR is slower round one track, not a track. Its a similar situation Ferrari had at the weekend, thier cars couldn't go fast enough round Monoco because they are too big.
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Wonderboy
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Originally posted by neiliosxi
What are the VXR's retailing at?
I've ordered a new megane 225 cup for £14.5k
15k ish
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Superlite Ltd.
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Isn't the clio a 2 litre engine?
Corsa only has a 1.6 remember
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Cupra Steve
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A remap / exhaust / IC will see huge gains in the corsa andi would expect it to leave the clio!
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Dee
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Originally posted by ed
For one thing, the VXR is slower round one track, not a track. Its a similar situation Ferrari had at the weekend, thier cars couldn't go fast enough round Monoco because they are too big.
yes
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big eck
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Originally posted by Steve
corsa vxrs arent available to drive away yet gavin
you sure???
Theres 2 up my way that are out and about
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big eck
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quote:
Originally posted by Superlite Ltd.
Isn't the clio a 2 litre engine?
Corsa only has a 1.6 remember
The clio aint got a turbo helping it tho 
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Robin
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Originally posted by big eck
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Originally posted by Steve
corsa vxrs arent available to drive away yet gavin
you sure???
Theres 2 up my way that are out and about
He means you can't walk in to a dealer and drive away with one, you have to order them and delivery times are around 12 weeks. The Clio, you can drive away without a wait.
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Superlite Ltd.
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Originally posted by big eck
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Originally posted by Superlite Ltd.
Isn't the clio a 2 litre engine?
Corsa only has a 1.6 remember
The clio aint got a turbo helping it tho
Think i'd rather have engine capacity over a turbo. More torque and no lag.
Its an unfair race IMO
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Robin
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Corsa has 260Nm of torque, Clio 197 has 215....
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Steve
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how the fuck is it an unfair race 
i like how this vxr everyone has been going mad about doesnt quite appear to be the best in its class after all, and now all of a sudden its unfair
i bet you right now had the vxr beaten the clio it would have been totally fair
[Edited on 29-05-2007 by Steve]
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Robin
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It is a fair comparison, they're in the same class, competing directly against eachother.
Comparing the Corsa to a Focus ST would have been unfair.
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whitter45
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
Corsa has 260Nm of torque, Clio 197 has 215....
which is not a great deal of differnce considering one car is turbo charged
End of the day whether its quick or slow around a track doesn't really matter
If you are considering one then drive both, decide which make you smile more etc and then buy ity
If you want a track car buy a westfield or something
A race around a track means fuck all as you probably spend 99.9% of your time on public roads
the track race makes up part of a review not all the review
[Edited on 29-05-2007 by whitter45]
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Dee
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
how the fuck is it an unfair race
i like how this vxr everyone has been going mad about doesnt quite appear to be the best in its class after all, and now all of a sudden its unfair
i bet you right now had the vxr beaten the clio it would have been totally fair
[Edited on 29-05-2007 by Steve]
go away steve, you just want the opportunity to bash vauxhall, TBH you opinion counts for nothing, you drive a Peugeot.
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Steve
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so you also think it was unfair?
laughable
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
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Originally posted by Robin
Corsa has 260Nm of torque, Clio 197 has 215....
which is not a great deal of differnce considering one car is turbo charged
I know, but it's still more, the reply was to Superlite who said "Think i'd rather have engine capacity over a turbo. More torque and no lag." Which isn't the case.
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Rob H
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
I know, but it's still more, the reply was to Superlite who said "Think i'd rather have engine capacity over a turbo. More torque and no lag." Which isn't the case.
Especially when you consider that that 260NM is available from just over 2000 RPM to just under 6000 RPM
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baza31
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both are very nice cars but IMO £16k for a corsa is unbelievable. I was going to splash out and buy a new Astra VXR but decided that i can do an awfull lot with £20k.
I know they will keep thier value and depreciation will be minimal but they are over priced , can get a lot of car for £20k
As far as 106s go they are shit, not worth thier weight in scrap. Ive owned one too
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Rob H
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Originally posted by baza31
I know they will keep thier value and depreciation will be minimal
VXR prices will drop like a lead baloon like any other vauxhall, and like most of the other hatches in it's class TBH.
If your bothered about depreciation, buy a second hand one for £15k, and pocket the £5k
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Nic Barnes
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clio is a better all round car, there really isnt any disputing it
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