Tom
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
I left school done my 3 year apprenticeship as a mechanic.now fully qualified lol since i finished that ive been doing call centre jobs lol.
and at 24 its pretty sad,i dont want to do mechanics.i like working on my own cars not other peoples and i dont really want to be doing call centre work all my life lol
So i know how you lot feel  no idea what i want to do either lol
Just finished mine mate, wondering what to do next, guess you dont advise call centres 
You could say that,try working in the faults department off Virgin media worked there a whole year. day after day off people moaning they're Zeetv and playboy channels arent working or going off in the middle off a wank
Im unemployed at the moment had to leave just had enough.
im at the phase i dont know what to do with myy life and feel to old to start over again lol. ah well 
Very very similar situation. Doing some work (what I am experienced in) for a mate who set his own company up. Got option to work for him full time ande be involved in this massive growth they are building to but I've lost motivation for that kind of work, need to be actually doing something I still beleive in or buy into. BORED, but used to being skint now so not a problem learning something new I suppose.
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AK
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Painting & Decorating isnt a bad trade.
I've basically served my time doing that shit helping my dad over the years.
A lot of folk just seem to go through Uni now as a social 'must be done' point in their lives.
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AK
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PS...
you cant just expect to walk into a high paid job with no experience or relevent qualifications.
Put yourself in your potential employers position.
I started off on around 3.5x less than i'm on a year just now. Worked in that job for near 5 years, moved on to a slightly different job, been here for nearly 1.5-2years now. Cant see myself doing this job for ever, but it 'fits' me just now, and its not as bad as i sometimes make it out to be. I've done the 9-5 office IT geek for a year and spells for the first 5 years. Didnt really enjoy that, but if needs must.
Pensions - no idea what i have in mine just now... was 14k or so about 2 years ago. About 400 a month is going into just now though so should be decent when i get to that shitty old age
[Edited on 05-11-2007 by AK]
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Tiger
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thing with pensions is that what your paying in now is gonna be worth a lot less when you draw on it, simply because of inflation and general price rises. Imagine if 30 years ago you had payed about a tenner a week in coz really people couldnt afford a lot more - it aint worth a lot now.
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kz
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i hate online banking, you get to see how useless money is. i tried being really good and bought nothing this month! still spent £800  (i live at home btw)
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K3 VMU
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time served plumber, corgi registered, also got my offshore safety & survival ticket.
wouldnt change my job for any suit wearin office job- BORING !!! much rather be out there doing stuff gettin hands dirty.
4 years of crap pay and doing all the cunts o jobs , but it pays off. my mum and dad have always said i have to get a trade under my belt, and i see why as i will always have something to fall back on if i have a change in career....plus....every one needs a plumbers and homers is good cash 
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Tom
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Painting and decorating seems to be the less skilled...skilled trade?! Easiest to learn maybe for the best return vs effort?
In theory yes, you must have to have a good eye for detail and be quite neat
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AK
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its not an easy trade....
Painting and hanging backing paper is easy... but doing things neatly and to a high standard isnt
Thats like saying being a joiner is easy if you can batter some nails into wood
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Andrew
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One thing i have learnt is you don't get anything from not working for it. Work your bollocks off and you will get the rewards in the long run.
I was just shocked to hear the results from my work
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Ricky352
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Im 19 and in the civil service in NI. Its a handy enough job, been here since about March after doing a-levels. I started at the bottom, 12,500 a year, but have already passed an interview and test for promotion, where i will get 14,500.
After that i think that the next stage in the ladder will be easy enough to get to as well.
The civil service has yearly pay rises, i recieved only £400 but thats cos ive only been ere a while. A mate got £4000, he is the role above my promotion. Hes been here for a good while, but he still only 25
To be honest its so easy, really if i told you you wouldnt believe me, but boring. I spend my day surfing th web which some may enjoy, like i do, just not for the rest of my life.
Im actually considering the police as i have a mate joining at the minute who has good reports. It would be a great job i think, would be scary, challenging, decent money etc etc
Is anybody in the police here?
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Tiger
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I've heard terrible inside stories of serious bullying in the police. I met a girl in NZ who said she had to quit coz it was that bad - she said you just dont expect it but its rife.
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Originally posted by Ricky352
To be honest its so easy, really if i told you you wouldnt believe me, but boring. I spend my day surfing th web which some may enjoy, like i do, just not for the rest of my life.
My mum did a short stint in the civil service a while ago. Great money, massive promotion scales, was fooking easy money.
She couldn't stand it. They blocked all the half decent websites and there was absolutely nothing to do. Attended a meeting once a week. Do about 15/20 minutes work a day, leave 30 minutes before you needed to.
Shocking waste of taxpayers money TBH.
[Edited on 05-11-2007 by aPk]
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mattk
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Get a Trade.
Or be an Electrician
Im a plumber we bang a central heating system and a bathroom suite into a council house in 1 day, its bloody hard graft but good money,
theres plenty of the work about, you can leave a job at dinner and have a start somwere else by the end of the day
Its not too hard either once you have a fair bit of experience
id go for plumbing as its one of the top earners, its usefull to have, and you learn most of the other trades as you go along
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csweatherston
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dont be a mechanic.....
im earning less than my flatmate who works 24 hours over the weekend.
where i work 45hours
roofer ftw, quality easy going job, good pay 
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Tom
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I am thinking about sticking with what I know for now. I have just had soem interesting news from an ex-colleague
BTW does anyone know anything setting yourself up as self employed, do I need to register a business name etc? It's basically sub-contracting to one company that is still in it's infancy? I fear it could be bad news trying to sort my own tax/ni
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AK
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go Ltd..
pay yourself a small wage etc etc
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Tom
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But it's only going to be to put my wages through really. Can i pay myself a small amount (hence pay lower tax) and spend other bits on stuff i can claim vat back on etc?
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Gregor
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Im a 3rd year apprentice and work constantly , whether its overtime or doing homers. No offence to anyone but the money in a trade can be great if you go out and work for it, which is what you need to do. Working for a big company as tradesman you will just be paid a set wage - work self employed and though its hard , it should pay well !
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mattk
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My dad was a subcontractor for a small company, in that company the rule was subbies got 20% a week more wages but had to sort their own accountant and insurance, was sweet for a year or so then we jacked and went cards in to that company
sub contracting is ok if you dont mind the hassel
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Dean B
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Electrican- I love my job. Not quite sure what Tiger is talking about on finance terms. I have been doing it four years. I earn about 26k a year. Approved electricians earn 32k+. Self employed is where it's at. There is some serious money to be earned in the trade.
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Colin
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I started off ok I guess working in a lab for BP oil, however that was short lived less than 2 years & my time was out & the company was losing 1000 staff so I was told no chance of a job. Got in with a contract company for another nearly 2 years doing a similar job, but the pay was shit & I saw no future in it so I quit. Had a few in between jobs then landed a position in Construction, contract tendering for a plumbing & heating company, done a lil bit of everything there, got some worthwhile experience running things but being a family owned/run company there was alot I didnt like + pay wasnt too good & didnt see it increasing by much, buckshee'd out of there in just under 3 years, from there I went to college, got an HNC, then got an apprenticeship in instrumentation, currently doing alot of qualifications & skills workshops with that, in around 14-16 months i'll be working offshore hopefully for BP again or maybe Shell, Total, 2yrs offshore as an apprentice (but still on reasonable money) then i'll be on about £50k & 8 months off a year. 
Soon i'll have:
NC Multidisciplinary Engineering
HNC Electrical Engineering
HNC Process Control/Operations
GSVQ II Chemistry
Level 2 S/NVQ in Performing Engineering Operations
Level 3 S/NVQ Engineering
Experience:
4yrs Technician Analyst role on-shore
3yrs Management/Contract surveying
2yrs Technician Maintenance level off-shore
Thats the sort of shit employers want to see!!
Get some qualifications if you want to get anywhere guys.
[Edited on 05-11-2007 by Colin]
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Tiger
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Originally posted by Dean B
Electrican- I love my job. Not quite sure what Tiger is talking about on finance terms. I have been doing it four years. I earn about 26k a year. Approved electricians earn 32k+. Self employed is where it's at. There is some serious money to be earned in the trade.
Im not self employed - my earnings were between 16.5k and 19k and I'm approved. I dont want to have to work MY weekends to get a decent wage. All this Part P nonsense finished it for me - why should I have pay more money to get a ticket for stuff I already studied for? Fucking politics basically.
There is money to be earned but you have to be willing to live a quiet life and crawl to the grave silently.
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mattk
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Thats one thing I will NOT do, WOrk every hour of everyday
Ok if its a saturday heating you can earn £400 easy on a forigner
Id never dream of working for someone else on a saturday, lifes too short an all that
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Tiger
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I wanna do 39-42 hours a week. Lets face it - you actually work more hours a day than you have with your family and friends (unless you stay up quite late which not everyone wants to do)
Now if thats the kind of life you want to remember, thats fair enough - I want to live my own life - not my employers.
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mattk
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I do 39 hours a week
Work is your life basicly, pisses me off big time
up at 7 in work for 8
home at around 4:30 "exist" till about 11ish then go to bed. Wake up start again
This thread is depressing me
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