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Adam_B

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22nd Dec 07 at 18:33

Id probably be looking at integras

Martin_C

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22nd Dec 07 at 18:34

true, get a 98 spec import for that price.

Steve

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22nd Dec 07 at 18:36

nothing could be more overhyped than vtec

andy1868

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22nd Dec 07 at 18:37

BMW 850

or an integra

Adam_B

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22nd Dec 07 at 18:38

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
nothing could be more overhyped than vtec

its not just the engine tho, the whole package makes an excellent car to drive.

Martin_C

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22nd Dec 07 at 18:38

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
nothing could be more overhyped than vtec

show me a standard 1.6 n/a engine with 185bhp.

or a standard 1.8 n/a with 204 or whatever the dc2's are.

you're a shit stirring bastard steve.

[Edited on 22-12-2007 by Martin_C]

Novaneil

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22nd Dec 07 at 18:39

Integra Type R
Clio 182
Astra 888 Coupe (if you can get them for 8k?)

Steve

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22nd Dec 07 at 18:40

quote:
Originally posted by Martin_C

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
nothing could be more overhyped than vtec

show me a standard 1.6 n/a engine with 185bhp.

or a standard 1.8 n/a with 204 or whatever the dc2's are.

you're a shit stirring bastard steve.

[Edited on 22-12-2007 by Martin_C]

you really need to see the power curve to realise why vtec is pants, regardless of what peak power it makes

Novaneil

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22nd Dec 07 at 18:41

Here we go again! Start another thread if you want to argue over V-Tec before ruining this one people...

Adam_B

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22nd Dec 07 at 18:42

who gives a fuck about power curves, get it hooked up on a country lane or trackday and the whole car is extremely rewarding.

[Edited on 22-12-2007 by Adam_B]

Steve

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22nd Dec 07 at 18:45

i agree

Martin_C

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22nd Dec 07 at 18:46

you can stay in the vtec range no problem at all, unless of course you can't drive.

Robbo

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22nd Dec 07 at 18:47

quote:
Originally posted by Martin_C
[img]you can stay in the vtec range no problem at all, unless of course you can't drive.

Agreed, I never had a problem in my CTR

mk4_astra

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22nd Dec 07 at 18:50

172 cup is what i would strongly consider against an ITR, newer and easier on the insurance and dare i say it just as capable?

my friend had one and wanted a dc2 for years and when he finally drove one couldnt live with vtec, he said it was an awsome car to drive and had a special feel to it but moaned about the torque and felt the clio had much more.

there not THAT bad on torque are they? i seem to remember the ctr i went out in with 4 of us picked up well enough and once in vtec was moving rather swiftly...

Martin_C

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22nd Dec 07 at 21:48

well, the way i see it, mine was a 1.6 and it had tons more torque compared to a 1.6 106 gti, its just the vtecs have alot more power compared to their torque.

willhouse

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22nd Dec 07 at 21:54

Integras are not that good to be honest and are over rated IMO, my brother has one, and a close friend used to have a modfified one, ive driven and been passenger in them both many a time, and i have come to the conclusion that i would not go out and spend 8k on any Type R Honda, granted they are good, but there are alot better cars out there for the money.

If we are talking about the the EVO Magazine snobbery crowd of cars such as the Integra- then....

A turbo converted Racing Puma or Williams Clio would come in under the 8k budget, which i would much rather prefer.

IvIarkgraham

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22nd Dec 07 at 21:55

172 cup

Martin_C

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22nd Dec 07 at 21:58

i've never been in a integra dc2, but if its anything like the ek9 then i doubt much thats standard could touch it on a back road for that money.

Adam_B

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22nd Dec 07 at 21:59

EVO Magazine snobbery crowd of cars

mattk

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22nd Dec 07 at 22:00

Fiat Grande Punto JTD

Steve

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22nd Dec 07 at 22:00

why are people comparing racing on back roads?

you'l never be able to push a car to its true limits and get the best out of it on a 'back road' anyway

IvIarkgraham

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22nd Dec 07 at 22:01

quote:
Originally posted by mattk
Fiat Grande Punto JTD

who would buy one of them?

Adam_B

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22nd Dec 07 at 22:05

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
why are people

person

mattk

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22nd Dec 07 at 22:05

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
why are people comparing racing on back roads? you'l never be able to push a car to its true limits and get the best out of it on a 'back road' anyway

far better on the smooth surfaces of the town streets imo

Martin_C

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22nd Dec 07 at 22:23

well if theres anywhere on the road to test a car its a good twisty back road.

of course its not like being on track, but its the closest thing.

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