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Originally posted by bjackso2x
Nothing else apart from the DTUK box and a K&N which will give jack all extra bhp.
Mine hasn't actually been on the rollers but as mentioned above, the tuning boxes give figures of between 190 and 210bhp on the CDTI 150. Thats one great thing about diesels, they are so easily tunable with big gains. After about 230bhp it gets expensive though.
Thats why i'm getting an Astra VXR soon!
[Edited on 03-02-2008 by bjackso2x]
nowhere near mate, your dreaming if you think youve got 200bhp those dtuk boxes will give 15bhp if that, as said im pretty sure they dont even touch the boost
[Edited on 03-02-2008 by Steve]
The cars with boxes have been on the rollers at various different places. I'm not guessing. Its proven!
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about 10bhp iirc and he has other mods, i also dont see why the 1.7 would get 20bhp and the 1.9 get over twice the hike
I'm not sure if the 1.7's a JTD engine or not, and therefore might be completely different engines? Vauxhall have used 1.7 Diesels since the begginign of time, so could be a development of their older engine. I also know the 1.7CDTi comes in 3 guises - an 80, 100 and lately a 120 output engine - the old "standard" TD used to have 80 brake, so neither the 80 or 100 are a big improvement.
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pretty sure that other than an exhaust and this power box thats how you get an astra 888 / t9 engine wise
http://www.thurlbymotors.net/cgi-bin/StockViewer.exe/UsedStockHTML?type=N&fuel=D&gear=M&body=H
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Steve
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Originally posted by bjackso2x
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Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by bjackso2x
Nothing else apart from the DTUK box and a K&N which will give jack all extra bhp.
Mine hasn't actually been on the rollers but as mentioned above, the tuning boxes give figures of between 190 and 210bhp on the CDTI 150. Thats one great thing about diesels, they are so easily tunable with big gains. After about 230bhp it gets expensive though.
Thats why i'm getting an Astra VXR soon!
[Edited on 03-02-2008 by bjackso2x]
nowhere near mate, your dreaming if you think youve got 200bhp those dtuk boxes will give 15bhp if that, as said im pretty sure they dont even touch the boost
[Edited on 03-02-2008 by Steve]
The cars with boxes have been on the rollers at various different places. I'm not guessing. Its proven!
rolling roads are proof now 
anyway, if you show me where the dtuk boxes increase boost il believe you.
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Ben J
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Steve....you seem a bit of a dick....I can assure you the tuning boxes produce bhp figures up to 200bhp.
I have seen figures before and after boxes. I've had a box on my car for a year. You can argue all you want but it is FACT.
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ARD1
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these are around 200bhp+ as seen in evo fifth gear etc
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Steve
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so the the box increases boost yes?
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ARD1
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http://www.thurlbysport.net/
thats it
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Steve
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PMSL the rolling road was done at regal on the DTUK site, says it all really
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http://www.thurlbysport.net/
thats it
its all just sales blag, i want to know how it alters the boost
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Steve
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its obvious its full of shit, how does it eliminate turbo lag  you lot are easily bullshitted
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Ben J
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http://www.thurlbysport.net/
thats it
its all just sales blag, i want to know how it alters the boost
I want to know why you seem so bothered about the 200bhp figures being bullshit. If it was bull, theres no way there would be so many people buying DTUK equipment!!!!
If you think its bull, then thats up to you. I don't really car. All I know is that my car is an absolute rocketship, especially in sport mode. And tbh, that enough proof for me!
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http://www.dieseltuninguk.com/rolling_road_results.php
there you go
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Steve
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its regal rollers mate
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Steve
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tbh it shows they are pretty crap for using regals rollers
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Steve
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The idea behind the tuning box is to intercept the signal between the ECU and the injection system usally the common rail and basically allows it to inject more fuel into the cylinders thus producing more torque and power, and because of this the engine is running more efficiently the fuel consumption is also improved because you would have to use less throttle for similar conditions.
right so no boost increase = no 50bhp gain
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well the other ones i showed from thurlby are from germany somewhere im not sure if they are the same, but if ou look at the graph i think it shows the boost is different, plus the fact that the t9 was as quick as a vxr from fifth gear shows it must be giving more than 150bhp really
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Steve
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no its shows drag, whp, fly horse power and torque
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ARD1
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and the astra vxr only just being quicker than a 150bhp or 160bhp [ your predicted increase] td astra on a track, think it shows its more than that
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Steve
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the cdti will have loads more torque, hence why my 130bhp vrs is as quick as some petrols with a lot more power, especially on the move
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vxr
Engine Size 1998 cc
Cylinders 4
0-60 mph 6.2 s
Power Output 236 bhp
Valves 16
Torque 320 Nm 236 lb-ft
Top Speed 152 mph
cdti 150
Engine Size 1910 cc
Cylinders 4
0-60 mph 8.3 s
Power Output 147 bhp
Valves 16
Torque 320 Nm 236 lb-ft
Top Speed 130 mph
yet the torque is the same and your telling me that 86bhp makes no rear difference it was close even in a drag race, and td are crap at those due to the gear box ratios
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Steve
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no im not, im saying unless you increase boost you dont get 50bhp from thin air by plugging in a box.
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ARD1
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so from the stats if those boxes dont work then the td would be no where near a vxr unless they where getting around 200bhp, no other way
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even with those stats, round a track it still wouldn't be MASSIVELY different anyway. Did the TD have anything suspension/brakes wise?
[Edited on 03-02-2008 by Steve]
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Ben J
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Oh so your Fabia is only 130bhp....now I see where all this comes from.....
[Edited on 03-02-2008 by bjackso2x]
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