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Matt H
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6th May 10 at 17:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If you don't want rid of them then why vote for a party that wants rid of them??
Marc
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Originally posted by Ben G
it's the ones who come here and have 10 kids, never work a day and expect to get loads of benefits and a house.

You mean like that white English family in the national papers last week with 7 kids, a Mercedes people carrier, free Sky tv, 2 DS's and a Wii. Both parents were receving 30k a year in benefits.
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I disagree on the wasted vote thing tbh John. This election will 90% be going to Tories, but by the look of it Lib Dems are going to make big in roads into the 2 major parties, and if it's a hung government as seems likely, then I heard rumours of another election in a year or two anyway?

Which means if parties make big gains, people will be more likley to vote for them in further elections, instead of the country being stuck with a choice of just 2 parties to run the country

also with regards to bnp, ukip etc... They wont get to power obviously, but if there's enough support for them surely the bigger parties will take note and instigate initiatives to get these voters back on their side?
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Voted, Conservative
Ben G
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
it's the ones who come here and have 10 kids, never work a day and expect to get loads of benefits and a house.

You mean like that white English family in the national papers last week with 7 kids, a Mercedes people carrier, free Sky tv, 2 DS's and a Wii. Both parents were receving 30k a year in benefits.


some people can't read...

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Originally posted by Ben G
no, just have the right to vote for who i want. not bothered in the slightest what anyone else thinks.

as i've said before, you don't seem to have half as bigger problem with illegal immigrants (white and black) claiming benefits as we do.

i pay for those fuckers to live here. i want to pay for my own family to live and enjoy life.


i wish people would get off their high horses.
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I thought this was meant to be a vote on who you want to run the country??? I went to vote and got the option of labour, conservative, lib dem, ukip and 4 independants. Where was my vote for BNP? Does my head in! I mean this is the biggest thing to happen in years yet i cant vote for who i want to!


This is the kind of shit that makes me laugh.

You've not even bothered to find out how the voting system works, yet will happily vote for BNP. Talk about not having a clue

Voting for the BNP is such a dangerous thing to do tbh. Most people I've heard that are voting for them don't have a clue how rediculous their policies are, nor can they actually be bothered to find out why. Present them with facts and all you get, as Hammer said, is 'Its my vote I'll do what I like'.

All that ends up happening is a whole bunch of simpletons vote in a bunch of MPs who will just oppose every piece of policy. Never mind if its actually a good idea or not, they'll oppose everything passed through the commons.

If people spent half the time they do moaning actually looking at the policies in detail and THINKING about what it actually means I'm sure half the BNP votes would be instantly withdrawn.
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you are a nice man AndyKent but iv a feeling that your bottom lip is slightly larger then your top. But that is not a problem because they are lovely lips
Ben G
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i read their policies in a booklet they sent us. some are a bit radical yes, but others are what we need.

just like the main parties have good and bad parts.

what we need is a government that can do everything we need them to. unfortunately that's never going to happen.
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you are a nice man AndyKent but iv a feeling that your bottom lip is slightly larger then your top. But that is not a problem because they are lovely lips


He has a normal haircut though, you intolerable cretin.
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You ok this evening hammer? have you voted yet?
AndyKent
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Thanks Steve.

The booklets are crap from all the parties. Look at the full documents on the website with what they actually propose in detail and take a minute to think about what would happen if the policies were brought in.

Stuff like cutting back on foreign imports (impossible without crippling the country), paying to deport people (we've got no money remember) etc etc.
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i bet the people sitting in the polling stations love getting paid to sit there doing sod all.

i went in my local one at 6pm and there was no one there apart from them.
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You ok this evening hammer? have you voted yet?


I'm highly strung mate, next BNP supporter I see is getting sharked.
Marc
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The two in my polling station had a table behind them that was completely covered in sweets, cakes etc
Ben G
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like someone said before, you should be able to register a protest vote. basically ''i don't agree with any of these parties, i feel they don't deserve my vote''.

if you don't vote at all, people place it against you as if you're some kind of moron.

if you do vote and vote for someone you don't like, is that not going against your own beliefs?
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i bet the people sitting in the polling stations love getting paid to sit there doing sod all.

i went in my local one at 6pm and there was no one there apart from them.


The counters get paid well too. Mate of mine did it and got £150 for the day. Was a long day mind.
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I've done the polling stations and the counting, both easy money and you get as much juice, crisps and chocolate as your fat face can handle.
Ben G
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
like someone said before, you should be able to register a protest vote. basically ''i don't agree with any of these parties, i feel they don't deserve my vote''.

if you don't vote at all, people place it against you as if you're some kind of moron.

if you do vote and vote for someone you don't like, is that not going against your own beliefs?


Totally agree. But voting for something you (not you in particular, anyone) don't understand is just as stupid.
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im doing the driving of the votes in a bit 150 quid to drive a van 40 miles
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I voted conservatives my accident
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Originally posted by Ben G
i read their policies in a booklet they sent us. some are a bit radical yes, but others are what we need.

just like the main parties have good and bad parts.

what we need is a government that can do everything we need them to. unfortunately that's never going to happen.


This!

I read their policies on their website and yes i do agree with a lot of them in detail but i dont agree with the way they want to go about putting those policies into action. But if i had the choice i would rather have a government that for 4 years wipes this country clean and puts it back to basics and helps to improve this country to a point where after that the other parties then have to come up with policies that improve the country rather than them just coming up with politically correct drivel that will never be put into force nor will it ever be used!

The other parties are willing to do nothing on immigration. Cameron said he will put limits on outside of EU immigration. We dont need limits we need a ban. We have enough EU immigrants without the external ones aswel. BNP are putting a ban on immigration whilst also offering a financial incentive for immigrants to leave. Im all for that! The finance will come from those immigrants claiming benefits. America has a system where if you move there and claim benefits within the first 10 years you get deported no questions/ no appeals.

Their other policies i also agree with like more police on the street etc. Their other policies are the same as the major parties.

So no offence but im not one of these stupid chavs that go to vote in between signing on and getting their tv back from cash convertors. I actually researched who i wanted to vote for. I watched the live televsied debates, i listened to the radio debates, i looked at their websites. BNP offered more positive policies than negative thats why i felt they got my vote, not because im a racist chav.

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[Edited on 06-05-2010 by jibjob]
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Their policies are a joke

Like paying people to leave. We have no money, and the vast majority of immigrants here work, not claim off the system. Look up the statistics, they're all on the ONS website for the public to view.

Withdraw from the EU completely. Brilliant, cut us off from the rest of the world trading markets why don't you.
Drastically restrict foreign imports - would cripple the country.
Deport non-nationals - how do you define non-national exactly? I think the BNP have picked an arbituary date ffs.
Corporal punishment for petty criminals - just

I could go on and on. If you can't see that we'd be turning back to the middle ages you're a fool tbh.
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hehe
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