mike56gte
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Originally posted by DannyE2010
thanks mate its only a handfull of us understand that fiesta st's arnt what they are made out to be
I agree.
What BHP is yours running then mate? I put a 4 into 1 branch manifold on mine and it didnt really make a difference.
Ive got 4 into 1, cat back powerflow, vx inlet and a BMC induction on a 1.6 and it only managed 111.5BHP  i was proper disappointed
ive been told you are best to get it remapped after fitting a power box to get the most out of it.
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Graham88
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Yeah exactly  Some people are really deluded by the car they own.
My Zetec S outhandle my Corsa by MILES. Both had coilovers fitted. The ST is limited for insurance purposes, I think that's gay and I do agree they should be faster, but come on, they're not 'slow'
as you say. Deluded.
I've had both? I loved how my Corsa looked, but the Fiesta is a much better looking car. The Corsa is a dated car, it's to be expected that newer cars are going to look better, more modern design etc.
I don't even own the Fiesta anymore. I'm just pointing out that saying an ST is 'slow' is quite a bold statement to make and not true. Just because an old Corsa keeps up doesn't make it slow. An old Porsche Turbo would easily beat an ST, does that make the Porsche a better car?
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mike56gte
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Originally posted by Graham88
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by Graham88
Yeah exactly Some people are really deluded by the car they own.
My Zetec S outhandle my Corsa by MILES. Both had coilovers fitted. The ST is limited for insurance purposes, I think that's gay and I do agree they should be faster, but come on, they're not 'slow'
as you say. Deluded.
I've had both? I loved how my Corsa looked, but the Fiesta is a much better looking car. The Corsa is a dated car, it's to be expected that newer cars are going to look better, more modern design etc.
I don't even own the Fiesta anymore. I'm just pointing out that saying an ST is 'slow' is quite a bold statement to make and not true. Just because an old Corsa keeps up doesn't make it slow. An old Porsche Turbo would easily beat an ST, does that make the Porsche a better car?
its really just opinion i persolly prefer the looks of say and old manta GTE or a mk1 escort to a new fiesta cant really say the fiesta is a better looking car because its newer.
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Jack1.6valver
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Was thinking the same? Its my opinion,hate the look of all budget modern cars. Flat arches,large round arses and eco engines, Dosent do it for me at all! The fact that if something goes wrong in a more modern sensor loaded motor,its a garage job with a healthy bill and the end of it. Ecus especially as they are up in the thousands for a replacement these days I personally would rather buy anything pre 2001. I think the only sort of modern car i will end up having is a audi when i can afford to get one and when i grow out of working on older,simpler mechs.
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Jack1.6valver
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Originally posted by philo1983
how much did you pay for the transplant and engine+fitting 
Was this post aimed at me?
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BarnshaW
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I would rather have a more modern car with luxuries and comforts then an older car. I have never owned a car with an ECU problem nor know anyone to pay thousands for an ECU
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jr
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corsa and fiestas handling, ffs they use an identical suspension set up dont they, rear trailing arm beam and front mcferson strut, theres never going to be alot to choose from them if they are running the right geo etc
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Jack1.6valver
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The seats in my car are comfortable enough for the use it gets.It has heating and full electrics. I take it you must be talking about the drib and drab of cow hide,silver plastic and rubber on the dash,control panels and other upholstry.As for ecu problems i've heard a few horror storys and most replacements being over the 1k mark for a new one orverging on 1k for a second hand one.
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Nic Barnes
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no problem graham. At end of day its a cheap old corsa or a new expensive ford and people like what they like. No point arguing personal opinions.
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philo1983
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Originally posted by Jack1.6valver
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Originally posted by philo1983
how much did you pay for the transplant and engine+fitting
Was this post aimed at me?
yes mate?
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Graham88
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
no problem graham. At end of day its a cheap old corsa or a new expensive ford and people like what they like. No point arguing personal opinions.
I would have said handling was more fact than opinion, but I shall leave it there 
And Jack I can see where you are coming from, however faults like that are so rare I've personally never heard of anybody having to pay for a replacement ECU. It is quite annoying having to pay for Diagnostics if something goes wrong (which I never have) instead of the simple paper clip test!
However just to be a smart arse, the Fiesta doesn't have flat arches
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Haimsey
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Wonder if this thread is linked on any FST forums...
Marcy Marc 
White Sport Progress Thread
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taylorboosh
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i think fiesta sts are very slow my standard cupra leaves them for dead
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Rob-e91
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I dont think the fiesta's have more luxuries than the corsa i've owned both, and my corsa had more luxuries than the zetec s, like electric heated mirrors ect. And on the ST issue i think a slightly tuned corsa sport could keep up with a standard one but i think as soon as you come across a derestriced ST, i.e a full exhaust system and a remap i think it would be a different story
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by Graham88
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
no problem graham. At end of day its a cheap old corsa or a new expensive ford and people like what they like. No point arguing personal opinions.
I would have said handling was more fact than opinion, but I shall leave it there
And Jack I can see where you are coming from, however faults like that are so rare I've personally never heard of anybody having to pay for a replacement ECU. It is quite annoying having to pay for Diagnostics if something goes wrong (which I never have) instead of the simple paper clip test!
However just to be a smart arse, the Fiesta doesn't have flat arches
i meant personal opinions on how the car looked.
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Graham88
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No that's just fact
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Wonder if this thread is linked on any FST forums...
What's the point, they will just say the opposite I just thought I'd add my opinion having owned both (ok so mine wasn't an ST but I have driven one)
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taylorboosh
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they are slow by todays standards graham, its a fact
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Graham88
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For an N/A I wouldn't say so, but fair enough.
Is your Cupra a Cupra R btw? That's like saying my car beats an ST by miles, but then I have a snail attached to my engine and 116bhp more than one.
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cunningham
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maybe abit of topic but im unsure what the fiesta but ive heard so many horro storys with dual mass flywheels only found in newer cars
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taylorboosh
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no its a 155bhp one, although loads of people think its fast, so i have no proof its not mapped
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taylorboosh
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also ctrs are na, as are clio sports
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Nic Barnes
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maybe people are just making what they can out of the car they can afford? we all cant afford flashy new fiestas.
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Jack1.6valver
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Originally posted by philo1983
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Originally posted by Jack1.6valver
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Originally posted by philo1983
how much did you pay for the transplant and engine+fitting
Was this post aimed at me?
yes mate?
Well in that case a whole lot cheaper than i would be to buy a shitty fiesta ST,thats including a full respray,engine and all ancillaries and all the other bits and bobs on it,i.e cage,recaros,wheels suspension etc and this is mainly because its never seen a garage yet and all the mechanical work can be carried out by myself. Cant imagine a fiesta st will be as fast or as fun to drive. Bit of a shit comparison to bring up tbh. Both in different leagues of there own.
[Edited on 26-06-2010 by Jack1.6valver]
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
maybe people are just making what they can out of the car they can afford? we all cant afford flashy new fiestas.
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markx14xe
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i have raced a fiesta st off the lights before and just kept up with him to 3rd gear then he had me >x16xe aswell
i had straight thro cat back exhaust 4 in1 manifold remapped k& n panel filter with a big cold air feed had a dyno print off for 122bhp i had 8.5 0 to 60mph topspeed of 120mph
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