Jambo
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Oh and did someone say revs?
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Ben G
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Its not about the numbers though,more about the delivery and how it puts the power down on the road.
Gotta remember,the N/A wont suffer from turbo lag.
It may be faster on paper,but on the road its a different story.
A 1.9D doesn't have any power to put down on the road, there's no chance in a million years it's faster.
maybe it's one of these 'what if?' scenario's he's talking about.
the gttdi was in top gear at 1,000rpm just ticking over, cruising down the road and the n/a came up next to it, 3rd gear, 3k rpm and beat it 
some people are beyond help.
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connollygt30
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Why is that? because you are'nt exactly in a position to constantly put peoples cars down or slate them are you?
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mwg
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Jambo - he's not asked for performance cars, he asked about performance diesels. Most of the ones listed in here come under that title.
Apart from a MK3 1.9D Golf of course
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Jambo
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See my original post Matty. They are built for economy, that's it
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mwg
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But he's asking about performance diesels specifically  Not performance cars. 2 different things!
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Ben G
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the performance diesel market is pretty big at the moment and i only going to get bigger.
the fact is, people want power as well as economy nowadays, and a lot of petrol's will never be as good.
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mwg
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Guessing you won't be able to get an Alpina D3 for under 20k 
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Corsa_Sport21
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Why is that? because you are'nt exactly in a position to constantly put peoples cars down or slate them are you?
Its an opinion.They really shouldnt post pics asking for opinions if they cant take it or dont like negative comments.If i like it,i will say,if i dont,i will say what i dont like.if its over-priced i will say,if its falsely advertised,i will say.
What your basically saying is,i shouldnt comment because of what i drove/drive??So if i had a 150k supercar,does that mean i can make bad comments on cars under 150k,but not over 150K.
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Jambo
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The Merc AMG dc63 or whatever it's called. That would bs alright
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Corsa_Sport21
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Anyhow,would these "beleivers" class a Mercedes Sprinter as a performance diesel??
Sense the tone.
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antnee
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Oh and did someone say revs?
Whats the power band in most petrols? 2-3k? A hybrid'd pd130 will make/pull good power from 1.5-4.5k 
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Jambo
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Revs?
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Eck
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Originally posted by Jambo
Oh and did someone say revs?
Whats the power band in most petrols? 2-3k? A hybrid'd pd130 will make/pull good power from 1.5-4.5k
So a modified diesel against a standard petrol yeah? Oh, and even then, a Focus ST/Astra VXR/whatever other hot hatch of the moment will make power for FAR longer than 2k, and more than 3k too. So I'm not sure what car you're referring to in comparison?
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Daniel_Corsa
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335d
Awesome bit of kit!
April '06' Corsasport Feature Car  | Aug '08' Total Vauxhall Feature Car | Spring '09' Fast Car Feature Car
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Eck
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Oh and did someone say revs?
Just topping this to keep Jambo happy.
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Jambo
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Thanks Eck
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Eck
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No problem fella. It'll need to be topped several more times until people actually take notice though
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IvIarkgraham
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mondeo st tdci
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Graham88
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Just because a diesel is fast does not make it cool. They are grandad and rep mobiles. Save the tractor for commuting, they are not performance cars. End of.
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antnee
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People who don't recognise diesels as being quick and 'fun' are living in the dark ages!
I suppose seeing is believing!
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John
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Just because a diesel is fast does not make it cool. They are grandad and rep mobiles. Save the tractor for commuting, they are not performance cars. End of.
You own the most grandad asian car ever, a mazda, it's quick though.
Pot, kettle, black.
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Eck
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Originally posted by antnee
People who don't recognise diesels as being quick and 'fun' are living in the dark ages!
I suppose seeing is believing!
Quick yes, but I don't see the delivery as being fun.
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Graham88
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Originally posted by John
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Originally posted by Graham88
Just because a diesel is fast does not make it cool. They are grandad and rep mobiles. Save the tractor for commuting, they are not performance cars. End of.
You own the most grandad asian car ever, a mazda, it's quick though.
Pot, kettle, black.
No John, just no. A Mazda is not a grandads car, as then you are saying that an RX7 is a grandads car. If you said a Mazda 3 TS2 (generally the diesel too), then yes, I'd agree with you. But how many Grandads do you know with an MPS? I know none. How many Grandads do I know with a diesel, oh, that's all of them.
Edit just noticed you said Asian, and there aren't even any Asians with one on the MPS forum Just picking a nationality out the hat I see to try and defend your shit argument.
[Edited on 03-10-2010 by Graham88]
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Graham88
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Originally posted by Eck
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Originally posted by antnee
People who don't recognise diesels as being quick and 'fun' are living in the dark ages!
I suppose seeing is believing!
Quick yes, but I don't see the delivery as being fun.
What Eck said. I'm not denying there aren't some quick diesels now. But they look broken whilst doing so with the soot out the back and having no rev range is boring. Petrol turbo delivery is much more fun than Derv.
I've got plenty of friends who have had fast Diesels. Not surprising really that nearly all of them now own Petrol turbo cars, says wonders to me.
[Edited on 03-10-2010 by Graham88]
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