broster
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Originally posted by VrsTurbo
you'll need to get the custom cage one profiled so the bits fit 110% too
every custom cages cage i have bought has been profiled by them, and they come with a cd showing how they fit to an extent.
they arnt 100% perfect fitting, you will need to trim a bit here and there but they are pretty close.
usually handy to fit them with a ratchet strap and portapower.
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Stu
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Safety Devices and custom cages, pretty sure iv made up my mind to get the 6 point custom cages CL4 though
Looked at them myself as it was just what I wanted, only thing that turned me off was the weld in fitment but after looking more into the bolt ins (after buying a bolt in  ) it seems the bolt ins are just as much a ball ache to fit anyway!
Ah well, I've bought it now anyway!
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Ben G
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Also grahams got a 4 point and that looks good.
Can guarantee though if i got a 4 point then i would be flamed fornot getting a 6
looks good?
steve, i think you're caught between 2 worlds here.
function over form.
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Steve
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looks good as in looks like it would do a good job 
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Ben G
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lets not get into a thegsi style argument here.
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mwg
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You better do at least 10 track days this year
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Steve
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yeah, and u
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mwg
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I've got as many booked as you have
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Steve
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cool, what tracks? are you coming to summer aciton day at combe?
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mwg
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Ian
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6 point is safer, depends how hard you're intending to land.
[Edited on 19-01-2012 by Ian]
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taylorboosh
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lol mine cost me like £120 all in. £80 on pipe and £40 on drink... proper mates rates
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ianofbhills
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For your car Steve I would personally just go for the cheaper rear cage option.
At the end of the day you're not racing, you dont have to meet any requirements like FIA or msa regs etc and you're are only going to enter a few track days, use it on the road and probably over to germany for the nurburgring.
Taking it too seriously and spending your money on items that are not 100% totally necessary takes the fun out of it. I've said it before but i'd rather use the cash saved to actually spend on track time or consumables like tyres and fuel and improving your driver skill by time in the seat rather then improving the spec sheet.
It will still be safe enough with just the rear cage imo
[Edited on 19-01-2012 by ianofbhills]
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AK
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Originally posted by john-d
lol mine cost me like £120 all in. £80 on pipe and £40 on drink... proper mates rates
was it seamless drawn pipe? What wall thickness, grade of steel?
A guy on TrackScotland got a cage made and fitted for £250.
Its made from rolled and welded sheet (so has a seam along its length, and inherant weak spots!), small O.D., unknown wall thickness and isnt welded all the way round the joints in tough to get at places.
This was 'fitted' by a guy who fits loads of cages aparently.
This might not be applicable to all but consider future use of the car.... check MSA blue book rules for spec on sizes, shapes and materials.
All I'm saying is beware of cheap cages.... you may have to spend double making the job right
[Edited on 19-01-2012 by AK]
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AK
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Originally posted by ianofbhills
For your car Steve I would personally just go for the cheaper rear cage option.
At the end of the day you're not racing, you dont have to meet any requirements like FIA or msa regs etc and you're are only going to enter a few track days, use it on the road and probably over to germany for the nurburgring.
Taking it too seriously and spending your money on items that are not 100% totally necessary takes the fun out of it. I've said it before but i'd rather use the cash saved to actually spend on track time or consumables like tyres and fuel and improving your driver skill by time in the seat rather then improving the spec sheet.
It will still be safe enough with just the rear cage imo
[Edited on 19-01-2012 by ianofbhills]
see where your coming from but a cage isnt an item you really plan to use. They are not needed in 99% of the cars, but when they are suddenly needed I bet the folk with the rear cages say 'hmm, wish i'd paid that £100 more'
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Steve
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All very good points, iv kinda come up with an affordable plan of buying the cage now and getting it.fitted later rather then trying to.do it all ay once
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Ian
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That guy in Essex has got his back up for sale - http://www.pumapeople.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=106083&pid=913831&st=0&#entry913831
More expensive to fit but that is a thing of beauty.
I'm slightly less tempted than last time because I have no job  but that's the one if you want it proper.
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taylorboosh
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Originally posted by AK
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Originally posted by john-d
lol mine cost me like £120 all in. £80 on pipe and £40 on drink... proper mates rates
was it seamless drawn pipe? What wall thickness, grade of steel?
A guy on TrackScotland got a cage made and fitted for £250.
Its made from rolled and welded sheet (so has a seam along its length, and inherant weak spots!), small O.D., unknown wall thickness and isnt welded all the way round the joints in tough to get at places.
This was 'fitted' by a guy who fits loads of cages aparently.
This might not be applicable to all but consider future use of the car.... check MSA blue book rules for spec on sizes, shapes and materials.
All I'm saying is beware of cheap cages.... you may have to spend double making the job right
[Edited on 19-01-2012 by AK]
due to the fact the cars never ever going to see a track its 40mm tube with a 2mm wall. Its not seamless as that would be overkill on what is a show cage with a hint of safety in mind....
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Steve
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Originally posted by Ian
That guy in Essex has got his back up for sale - http://www.pumapeople.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=106083&pid=913831&st=0&#entry913831
More expensive to fit but that is a thing of beauty.
I'm slightly less tempted than last time because I have no job but that's the one if you want it proper.
yeah noticed that again lol I don't think there's a great deal more to that then cl4 mind I think the doors are x beamed etc
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AK
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..... show cage
each to their own I guess.
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Ian
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Ask him when he wants his 495 Steve
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taylorboosh
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lol ive also seen exactly the same tube hold a 500kg truck bed so i dont think strength is a issue
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Mike
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Depends what you land on 
Mine's a 6 point with both rear diagonals, single door bars and harness bars but with some extra bracing to the pillars and roof so all in it's now a 13 point cage.
That was the CL3 kit (the front section) then we made the rear and door bars ourselves. All in it cost me about £500 and a house move but that's because Ste fitted it in exchange for me helping him move house So £740 is a good price for the CL4 fitted imo.
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Steve
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would need collecting from essex too, probably not really worth while in the end by the time iv done all that
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taylorboosh
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tbh id be more worried about the imp crumpling than the cage
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