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Steve
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now where the fuck is fad and dr pepper
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I agree with alot of comments on here. All supermarkets shops etc would update their system as there profits would soar . It really really annoys me . I know someone who has a new golf 61 golf on finance and manages to pay with his benefits rents his mums house but she lives there so he's basically paying her mortgage and getting a car out of the system too .

Like people have said IMO
1) no luxuries , the country is keeping you going not entertaining lifestyles, if you want a lifestyle you work , if you can't get a job tough it's 2012. No mobiles use telephone box . No sky, play with your 7 kids , maybe of they had to do this they wouldnt have so many

No choice of house . Council should buy all cheap houses and home the people rather than renting off landlords . If they want to live near there friends school etc then get a job and choose your area, until then you have alot of time doing nothing so walk, this will also keep you fit and reduce nhs obesity costs .

No money at all is available to them. A card for food , make it illegal to buy drink or cigs on said card. If you want to smoke then smoke your own money away not the country's .

These scroungers should feel embarrassed about not working . Why should all the country's hard working folk suffer such ever increasing tax cuts to pay for a lazy fuckers 200 lambert . Someone needs to man the fuck up stand up and tell this country what's going on before it's too late for all of us.


I know there is some genuine cases . So put them on system . I dont care what people say there are jobs , maybe not high paid jobs but it's a start . What would happen if we all quit working and there was no money in lofts left by existing tenants ? We would be fooked
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Government is to blame


yes they are, your liberal labour cunts you love so much
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Sunz
Government is to blame


yes they are, your liberal labour cunts you love so much



I should have written "I think Government is to blame" I have no proof !
I don't do politics or support any parties.
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Luxuries should be funded by stealing money from the lofts of close family IMO.

[Edited on 01-02-2012 by James]
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Put kids up for adoption and dump the parents in the sea
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Should have their fanny's sewed up until they can look after what comes out of it.
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quote:
Originally posted by baza31
I agree with alot of comments on here. All supermarkets shops etc would update their system as there profits would soar . It really really annoys me . I know someone who has a new golf 61 golf on finance and manages to pay with his benefits rents his mums house but she lives there so he's basically paying her mortgage and getting a car out of the system too .



I highly doubt that his benefits are paying his mums mortgage, and if he is he has only done so by making a fraudulent claim.


http://www.dwp.gov.uk/publications/specialist-guides/technical-guidance/rr2-a-guide-to-housing-benefit/housing-benefit/
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People who cannot get Housing Benefit [HB Reg 7] Close relatives You cannot claim HB if you live in the same dwelling as your landlord, and they are a close relative of you or your partner. A close relative is a: parent or step-parent or father-in-law or mother-in-law or child or step-child or son-in-law or daughter-in-law or brother or sister or brother-in-law or sister-in-law or partner of any of the above.

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I fit brand new heating systems into these peoples houses every day. 90% of them are fucking arseholes too. they have all sorts of gear that I want but cant afford. I know in my head that they are scum and that Im better than them. makes me feel nice. doesnt really cure the problem though

the people that say "get off your arse and work" arnt sorting things either. go out and work where? there are no jobs. Im sure some of them want to, the moajority wont though.

not really the governments fault either. these people need to be kept. no with such a lavish lifestyle, and you should certainly be well better off if your up in the morning.

Problem I see is that there are simply too many people in the UK. not quite sure how you sort that though

we need another propper war.
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Problem I see is that there are simply too many people in the UK. not quite sure how you sort that though

we need another propper war.


How do you work that one out?

Lots more people wanting to work means more tax means a better standard for everyone. Its a work-shy portion of the population thats the problem not the number.
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where do they work? there arnt enough jobs to go round
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There are plenty of jobs about. The reason so many people are unemployed is they are either shitheads and blatently unemployable or they think they are too good for minimum wage

[Edited on 01-02-2012 by Gary]
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I agree with the comments. Although I can easily understand the food costs when split down its only 4.50 per person per day, which would allow quite good quality food etc but its not as ridiculous as the sky and mobile phone bills
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Sky and phone is ridiculous. Why the fuck should i pay for some cunt to have Sky? Its a luxury not a nessesity!!
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They should give them bt infinity or virgin medic fiber optic allowance for their internet, can't be having adsl and I hope it's the full sky package, otherwise that's just a waste of tax payers money really.
They probably need a tv allowance for the sky tv, to make the most of it and some sort of allowance so they can buy a decent computer for the internet, all adds up.

*sarcasm* (for cs members lacking the ability to detect it, is quite a few)
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Aint' read the whole thread so not sure if it's come up but........

I think they should be given vouchers. Not cash. Vouchers can only be spent with ID corresponding to the person and only for essentials.

I know it doesn't sound perfect but with some ironing out it would work. So, basically they can't buy luxuries, only essentials.
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Its an old idea that worked, no reason they cant do it again.
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of course theres jobs. over the last 4 months lots of my friends here at uni have got jobs.
these dole scroungers earn more by claiming benefits so dont want to take minimum wage jobs. benefits should NOT exceed minimum wage, the government clearly think thats the minimum you need to earn to live if you have a job so why does it cost more to live if youre unemployed?
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Yes we have unemployment figures through the roof because there are plenty of jobs

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we have unemployment figure through the roof because these idiots know they can have more without lifting a finger. Change that and you watch unemployment fall.

not saying there are jobs for absolutely everybody but there would be a damn sight less unemployed

[Edited on 01-02-2012 by Steve]
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quote:
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Luxuries should be funded by stealing money from the lofts of close family IMO.

[Edited on 01-02-2012 by James]



Actually it was a previous persons money not a family member but your right , hard times call for hard measures .I think stealing off old people too maybe even the odd child .

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Yes we have unemployment figures through the roof because there are plenty of jobs




like i said,plenty of people would rather be unemployed because it pays better. then theres the thousands who have been on benefits for years and never worked, would you hire them? also the number of graduates are increasing, but many of them have useless degrees and cant find a related job but wont take lesser jobs due to feeling like theyre above them.

[Edited on 01-02-2012 by LeeM]
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Yes we have unemployment figures through the roof because there are plenty of jobs




There is. Just not jobs prople would prefer to do
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A card for food , make it illegal to buy drink or cigs on said card. If you want to smoke then smoke your own money away not the country's .
I'd go further and only allow items which zero-rated for VAT.

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageLibrary_ShowContent&id=HMCE_CL_000118&propertyType=document

Also think its a disgrace that they even have a television, I don't and I made that decision when I was on a lot more money than I'm on now.

If there are not jobs - sound - stay unemployed - but don't spend your benefits on alcohol and hundreds of TV channels.

I've no objection in principle to anyone obtaining benefits if they can't find employment, but I object quite strongly to them having a better lifestyle than people who are working.

Not even clear how they're spending £30pw on transport, how old are the kids?
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quote:
Originally posted by baza31
A card for food , make it illegal to buy drink or cigs on said card. If you want to smoke then smoke your own money away not the country's .
I'd go further and only allow items which zero-rated for VAT.

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageLibrary_ShowContent&id=HMCE_CL_000118&propertyType=document

Also think its a disgrace that they even have a television, I don't and I made that decision when I was on a lot more money than I'm on now.

If there are not jobs - sound - stay unemployed - but don't spend your benefits on alcohol and hundreds of TV channels.

I've no objection in principle to anyone obtaining benefits if they can't find employment, but I object quite strongly to them having a better lifestyle than people who are working.

Not even clear how they're spending £30pw on transport, how old are the kids?




We all know this figures are inflated . Why can't they walk? I'll tell u why it's because they are fucking lazy and getting lazier by the day , they get taxis everywhere. If they take their tv's and cig money it may be some incentive to get a frigging job

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