Jambo
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If anyone is interested they are running a group test with te Zoe and Leaf in Auto Express next week
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Dom
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Originally posted by SXIBrad
If you run out of battery on a motorway, your fucked!  (Without using breakdown cover)
You've got to remember, electric cars are still very much in their infancy and essentially all electric cars are test-beds for technology. And it was no different when the petrol/diesel car came out in that there wasn't the infrastructure for refueling.
Once standards are sorted then the infrastructure will be put in place with quick chargers at services and it'll be a non-issue.
Good review of the Model S - http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/12/3969260/going-the-distance-driving-tesla-model-s-in-the-real-world
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JordyCarter
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There good for around town. Obviously not long journeys
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neil h
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Originally posted by John
All powered by fusion reactors.
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SXIBrad
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Originally posted by John
Having a wireless power feed built into the roads is a plausible end result for me. There will be ubiquitous power built into the fabric of buildings and roads. That's a while away though.
Yeah, and that will be the time when we are all sprouting arms out of our asses from the radiation.
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SXIBrad
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quote:
Originally posted by Dom
quote:
Originally posted by SXIBrad
If you run out of battery on a motorway, your fucked! (Without using breakdown cover)
You've got to remember, electric cars are still very much in their infancy and essentially all electric cars are test-beds for technology. And it was no different when the petrol/diesel car came out in that there wasn't the infrastructure for refueling.
Once standards are sorted then the infrastructure will be put in place with quick chargers at services and it'll be a non-issue.
I understand what you mean but:
Walking a couple of miles to the petrol station and back with a small jerry can - Ok
Walking a couple of miles carrying a flipping heavy battery pack to charge for 15-20 mins - No taa
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Dom
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Originally posted by SXIBrad
I understand what you mean but:
Walking a couple of miles to the petrol station and back with a small jerry can - Ok
Walking a couple of miles carrying a flipping heavy battery pack to charge for 15-20 mins - No taa
Simple answer is - keep an eye on battery power and don't run out.
But i'll entertain you (and your weak issue with electric cars) - what do you propose as a future 'fuel' if you're worried about running out? You certainly aren't going to carry a jerry can of hydrogen
[Edited on 18-07-2013 by Dom]
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mattk
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Don't know if its been mentioned, I haven't read all 3 pages but...
Is it more efficient and better for the environment to enlist a oil / coal burning power station to provide enough charge to drive a leccy car 100 miles, or is it more green to use a small petrol or diesel engine car?
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Jambo
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Depends how you view it. It uses less oil when driving around (no idea on the manufacture though) and doesn't emit nasty crap for you to breath in.
The overall environmental impact in co2 etc from manufacture to running I've no idea.
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antnee
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Even if the emissions levels are similar, the emissions are at the tailpipe, so therefore air quality improves around cities.
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Jambo
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Tempted to lease a Zoe
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SXIBrad
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quote:
Originally posted by Dom
quote:
Originally posted by SXIBrad
I understand what you mean but:
Walking a couple of miles to the petrol station and back with a small jerry can - Ok
Walking a couple of miles carrying a flipping heavy battery pack to charge for 15-20 mins - No taa
Simple answer is - keep an eye on battery power and don't run out.
But i'll entertain you (and your weak issue with electric cars) - what do you propose as a future 'fuel' if you're worried about running out? You certainly aren't going to carry a jerry can of hydrogen
[Edited on 18-07-2013 by Dom]
Watch Star Wars. They have it all sussed out...
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spencer88
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Originally posted by Jambo
Tempted to lease a Zoe
Car or companion?
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pow
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The Prius is a heap of shite really, I'll stick to my diesel for now. You lot should come over to Italy and fill your cars up - €1.90 for unleaded, €1.70 for diesel
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Jambo
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Prius makes perfect sense if it suits your commute. I'd consider a CT200h as it doesn't have the tree hugging gimp image and isn't plastic fantastic inside.
Most of my commute is under 30mph in traffic. To which a petrol/diesel would be poop. I'm not talking start stop. I'm talking movement so start stop is irrelevant as it is annoying.
The only downside from what I have read is the cvt and cabin noise at Mway speed
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Jambo
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Originally posted by spencer88
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Originally posted by Jambo
Tempted to lease a Zoe
Car or companion?
Links to both?
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noshua
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Tesla are definitely leading the pack, they demonstrated a battery swapping station a few weeks ago;
http://www.teslamotors.com/en_GB/batteryswap
Which would be perfect if you want to make a trip (currently more than 310 miles) without having to wait an hour for a recharge.
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gazza808
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No one mentions the emissions of producing the batteries?
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Dom
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Originally posted by gazza808
No one mentions the emissions of producing the batteries?
No, you just missed Rob E post on the previous page 
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gazza808
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quote:
Originally posted by Dom
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Originally posted by gazza808
No one mentions the emissions of producing the batteries?
No, you just missed Rob E post on the previous page
I fail.
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Ian
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Originally posted by Jambo
Convert what you spend on fuel to contribution in cost towards a new car that doesn't need to warm up on the short journey to work or need a long run to regenerate the dpf etc. it's not so crazy.
Not remotely fussed about either of those two things?
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Ian
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Also - I'd have one, but I normally have a few cars on the go and use the best one for the job. Electric would be OK for some jobs.
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Jambo
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I watched revenge of the electric car the other day, interesting docu/film about mainly Tesla and GM. Dint know the creator of PayPal runs Tesla!
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Robin
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Originally posted by Baskey
I don't really understand, why would anyone pay the best part of 30k to drive a shit car?
BMW have announced their i3 pricing today - from £25680
That's a car built with carbon fibre, weighs 1300kg, does 0-60 in 8 seconds and costs less than a Nissan Leaf which is heavier, slower and not a BMW
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Gary
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Thats afair bit of weight for a small car built with CF is it not?
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