Dom
Member
Registered: 13th Sep 03
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
Best place for a cat is the bin.
 such a simple minded fool.
Hammer has a point though 
|
alan-g-w
Member
Registered: 9th Nov 07
Location: Glasgow
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by Tomnova16
you said towel heads means sikhs, not me
I never said you did? I was making point that was nothing to do with you
|
Tomnova16
Premium Member
Registered: 21st Jan 06
Location: Gerrards Cross Drives: Porsche 911
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by alan-g-w
Weird thing is that it's Muslims who eat halal, the 'towel heads' I'm assuming's directed towards guys who wear turbans - Sikhs, who are not allowed to eat any meat killed in a ritualistic way.
http://www.lemass.co.uk/ for all your automotive/bodyshop needs
Located in Chalfont st Peter
|
alan-g-w
Member
Registered: 9th Nov 07
Location: Glasgow
User status: Offline
|
Again, that comment had nothing to do with you. I don't know what point you're trying to make
|
sc0ott
Member
Registered: 16th Feb 09
User status: Offline
|
|
baza31
Member
Registered: 19th Apr 03
Location: yorkshire
User status: Offline
|
Well that went slightly off topic . Who is in charge of which methods should be used and who has said these methods are ok? Also after all that I ate a curry last night  I had visions of the cows throat getting cut . Then this conversation was the topic of the meal 
|
Nic Barnes
Member
Registered: 5th Apr 04
Location: nowhere near ginger people
User status: Offline
|
As long as it's dead, I can't really see it tasting much different so don't see why it matters so much
|
baza31
Member
Registered: 19th Apr 03
Location: yorkshire
User status: Offline
|
Suppose it depends on principles . If you don't care about the animal getting killed in the way they do it then it won't bother you .Tbh I never give a shit either but after witnessing that last week it made me think . Unfortunately the part of the country where I live it's very hard to avoid halal . Especially when I am a last minute eater and use takeaways a lot . Either way it needs banning . My opinion without sounding racist is that no one dare challenge them . I wouldn't gaf if they killed the animal in a proper fashion and played it a cd and then called it halal but cutting the fuckers throat off whilst raising it by one leg is wrong
|
Gary
Premium Member
Registered: 22nd Nov 06
Location: West Yorkshire
User status: Offline
|
Your right, noone will say fuck all to them in fear of been branded a racist. Not eating halal anywhere would be hard, it's everywhere now.
|
John
Member
Registered: 30th Jun 03
User status: Offline
|
You need to move elsewhere, still not came across one place I would be forced to eat halal.
|
Gary
Premium Member
Registered: 22nd Nov 06
Location: West Yorkshire
User status: Offline
|
How do you know it wasn't halal?
|
John
Member
Registered: 30th Jun 03
User status: Offline
|
There would be no market for it.
They could have randomly bought halal and I wouldn't know right enough.
|
taylorboosh
Member
Registered: 3rd Apr 07
User status: Offline
|
Meh by the time i buy it, its already been killed in which ever way. Not eating it means it was even more of a waste.
[Edited on 29-03-2014 by taylorboosh]
|
Nic Barnes
Member
Registered: 5th Apr 04
Location: nowhere near ginger people
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by baza31
Suppose it depends on principles . If you don't care about the animal getting killed in the way they do it then it won't bother you .Tbh I never give a shit either but after witnessing that last week it made me think . Unfortunately the part of the country where I live it's very hard to avoid halal . Especially when I am a last minute eater and use takeaways a lot . Either way it needs banning . My opinion without sounding racist is that no one dare challenge them . I wouldn't gaf if they killed the animal in a proper fashion and played it a cd and then called it halal but cutting the fuckers throat off whilst raising it by one leg is wrong
is it really any more wrong than bolt gun or however else they are killed otherwise? they are bred for slaughter. to be consumed by us humans. they die, we eat.
|
Gary
Premium Member
Registered: 22nd Nov 06
Location: West Yorkshire
User status: Offline
|
Yeah but at least give the animal the respect it deserves.
|
Cavey
Member
Registered: 11th Nov 02
Location: Derby
User status: Offline
|
I'm half and half on this whole subject. I like animals, enjoy nature etc... And would want them treated nicely. But as Nic said, they're only alive because we bred them to die, so at the same time, that's what they were made for, they shouldn't suffer, and I would hope the meat I eat died quickly and as painlessly as possible, but in the end, I don't see it, I just eat it.
|
Dave
Member
Registered: 26th Feb 01
Location: Lancs
User status: Offline
|
Aye, nothing shows respect quite like electrocuting it, hauling it up by one leg, slitting it's throat then taking off to be chopped up. I know that's how I'd want to go.
|
Nic Barnes
Member
Registered: 5th Apr 04
Location: nowhere near ginger people
User status: Offline
|
its still slaughter though, no matter which way its done, its no form of respect at all?
|
Gary
Premium Member
Registered: 22nd Nov 06
Location: West Yorkshire
User status: Offline
|
It is though. We need them to live so the least we can do it quickly and humanly
|
Ian
Site Administrator
Registered: 28th Aug 99
Location: Liverpool
User status: Offline
|
Breeding them to die isn't relevant.
Watch the two techniques side by side.
Humane slaughter, the animals walk through a door, bolt gun to the head, dead in a split second.
Halal and frankly bullshit, they're clearly very much aware of the suffering in the time leading up to death, there is clearly immense pain during the slitting and some considerable agony for a prolonged period of time afterwards. Utterly despicable in modern society but this country is too faggy to outlaw it for fear offending the barbaric bastards.
Bred for meat is one thing, I'm all for being the superior race and eating things beneath me in the food chain, but at no point would I see anything suffer. And I particularly wouldn't be deliberately doing in the name of a man in the sky.
Its disgraceful and every single normal person should be absolutely against it.
|
neil h
Member
Registered: 28th Sep 06
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by Gary
Your right, noone will say fuck all to them in fear of been branded a racist. Not eating halal anywhere would be hard, it's everywhere now.
So clearly the vast majority don't actually care that much and just like the opportunity for a bit of Muslim bashing. The people that really care and are prepared to stand up for animal rights wouldn't bat an eye lid at being potentially branded racist just because they stood up for something.
[Edited on 30-03-2014 by neil h]
|
JordyCarter
Member
Registered: 14th Mar 10
User status: Offline
|
Ian pretty much hit the nail on the head
|
Gavin
Premium Member
Registered: 3rd Apr 02
Location: West Midlands
User status: Offline
|
Its' 2014, we have methods to ease the pain and suffering of animals... let fooking use them!
You wouldn't put a dog to sleep by slitting its throat
As for the religion component of this conversation, I don't believe in a God, I believe in science and that we are not alone in this vast universe. I actually believe (if I'm pushed to have a believe) that Alien's created man (Prometheus style  )... hey, us human's have already shown the ability to 'create life' via scientific methods (cloning animals, messing about at a genetic level etc). So it can't be too far fetched to believe an alien being created mankind, and not sure guy up with a white beard in the clouds.
My point is, I have believe but I don't let them rule my life style. I don't eat certain foods, dress a certain way or spend my Sunday's worshipping a 'greater being'. Imagine if I turned to work wearing a tin on my head - because it's part of my religion!
Coming back on topic. Religion scares the shit out of me as it provides an excuse for people to act in a certain way or perform actions such as allowing animals to suffer because it complies with their believes
Anyway.... I'm off to General Chat, all this religion talk is making me sound like a right
pew pew pew pewwwww
|
Tomnova16
Premium Member
Registered: 21st Jan 06
Location: Gerrards Cross Drives: Porsche 911
User status: Offline
|
Religion also makes you walk around in pyjamas
http://www.lemass.co.uk/ for all your automotive/bodyshop needs
Located in Chalfont st Peter
|
Ben G
Member
Registered: 12th Jan 07
Location: Essex
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by sc0ott
|
