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Cybermonkey
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This is because GM own both.
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the saab is a new engine... very lightweight... they wont be using the astra engine.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
This is because GM own both.


yes i know that
Cybermonkey
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No, Saab have been using this 175bhp engine since they first released the 9-3 series. Its in the Vectra and Signum because it would be cost-effective. This engine would not go into the Corsa GSi. It would definately be the unit from the Astra, since this is what Imrscher took to PV show, AND vauxhall insiders have said it will be a 165bhp 1.6 or 200bhp 2.0, which suggests its the ASTRA engine.
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
No, Saab have been using this 175bhp engine since they first released the 9-3 series. Its in the Vectra and Signum because it would be cost-effective. This engine would not go into the Corsa GSi. It would definately be the unit from the Astra, since this is what Imrscher took to PV show, AND vauxhall insiders have said it will be a 165bhp 1.6 or 200bhp 2.0, which suggests its the ASTRA engine.


thinikni about it... maybe its the 1.6 turbo that is the saab unit... i cant remember now
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jap crap? japanese cars are possibly the most technologically advanced cars around. Hmm who won best new engine this year? oh yea it was the Mazda RX8 Rotary Engine.. hmm japanese? i think so! and jap crap interiors? name a jap car and name a other car with better interior? hmm a honda ciivc has worse interior then a bmw.. well that's fucking obviouse.. but that's like me comparing a corsa interior or a PUNTO interior to a rx7 or supra. you have no fucking arguement u lot speakshite! civic interior.. better then any corsa and punto! let alone my rx7 which has superb interior.
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No, the Saab 9-3 shares the 2.0 Turbo alloy engine with the Vectra Turbo and Signum.
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quote:
Originally posted by GIBBS
jap crap? japanese cars are possibly the most technologically advanced cars around. Hmm who won best new engine this year? oh yea it was the Mazda RX8 Rotary Engine.. hmm japanese? i think so! and jap crap interiors? name a jap car and name a other car with better interior? hmm a honda ciivc has worse interior then a bmw.. well that's fucking obviouse.. but that's like me comparing a corsa interior or a PUNTO interior to a rx7 or supra. you have no fucking arguement u lot speakshite! civic interior.. better then any corsa and punto! let alone my rx7 which has superb interior.


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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
No, the Saab 9-3 shares the 2.0 Turbo alloy engine with the Vectra Turbo and Signum.


well then thats the one they were considering!!
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Gibbon, the interior of the CTR doesnt come close to that of the Focus ST170 or Focus RS. so PSTFU.
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i'm after a seat leon cupra r
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No Nobbo, its 25bhp short of 200bhp. It cant be that engine.
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
Gibbon, the interior of the CTR doesnt come close to that of the Focus ST170 or Focus RS. so PSTFU.


hmm and what was the aim of both companies for the interiors?
the CTR is a stripped out racing interior.. with very few luxuries.. it is intended for this.
the RS focus is not.. hardly fair to compare.
and even if that is what u are going to compare things on.. it is one car.
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Originally posted by Ojc
CTR's are bread vans and are highly over-rated.


Punto owner calling a CTR a bread van, sorry but

BTW I think CTRs look nice, but ive never driven one.
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
Gibbon, the interior of the CTR doesnt come close to that of the Focus ST170 or Focus RS. so PSTFU.


Ever looked inside an ST170?? Its baely as good as a corsa... take a look inside a CTR then come back! AN the RS costs nearly 10k more
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Gibbon, how come ALL Hondas share this stripped out look interior on ALL models, even the poo shop-around mothers car? For gods sake man! Stripped out is not an excuse for shameful comfort levels and about as much eye candy and looking at a frest birdshit. fuck off.
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Originally posted by Blazer
i'm after a seat leon cupra r


Decent cars as well!
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
No Nobbo, its 25bhp short of 200bhp. It cant be that engine.


do some research... one of the engines being considered was a saab one... i cant remember the details right now
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Yeah my dad has an ST170. I have seen inside a CTR, PANTS. The CTR doesnt come close to interior quality im afraid. Honda should stick to crotch-rockets IMO.
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Nobbo, wise up will you, NO ONE KNOWS what engine until VAUXHALL announce it. It will be DIFFERENT to the Opel Corsa OPC.
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
Gibbon, how come ALL Hondas share this stripped out look interior on ALL models, even the poo shop-around mothers car? For gods sake man! Stripped out is not an excuse for shameful comfort levels and about as much eye candy and looking at a frest birdshit. fuck off.


HAVE U EVER SEEN THE INSIDE OF A CTR??? ALCANTARA BUCKET SEATS (the most comfortable ive ever sat in), SILVER PANELS, BEAUTIFUL MATYERIALS... GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!

Even the std ivic is a decent interior!!
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Nobbo, wise up will you, NO ONE KNOWS what engine until VAUXHALL announce it. It will be DIFFERENT to the Opel Corsa OPC.
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i cudnt give a shit... one of the engines being considered was a saab one... ST170's suck... slower and more exp than a CTR
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
Yeah my dad has an ST170. I have seen inside a CTR, PANTS. The CTR doesnt come close to interior quality im afraid. Honda should stick to crotch-rockets IMO.


Interior quality... u sure u were lookin at the CTR
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Alcantara is for skanks like you. Full black leather with factory fitted Alpine sub and amp is the way to go. "SILVER PANELS, BEAUTIFUL MATYERIALS... " Are you on drugs? silver panels??? CHROME EFFECT PLASTIC more like, beautiful MATERIALS??? BEST PLASTIC ON THE MARKET HUH?
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
Alcantara is for skanks like you. Full black leather with factory fitted Alpine sub and amp is the way to go. "SILVER PANELS, BEAUTIFUL MATYERIALS... " Are you on drugs? silver panels??? CHROME EFFECT PLASTIC more like, beautiful MATERIALS??? BEST PLASTIC ON THE MARKET HUH?


take a look tosser

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