mwg
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I'm a bit underwhelmed by the 5. But I guess it's getting to the stage now where there's not really any massive leaps forward they can make? They've got an awesome screen already, fast processor, good camera & slick operating system. They just work. Not sure what else you can do but this is why I'm not a phone designer 
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Cavey
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Conductive charging would of been a good progression
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John
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They can't possibly do this again next year, not even apple, should be a good one then.
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Cavey
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Surely next year will be the 5s, so an even smaller upgrade?
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Steve
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Apple havent made a really impressive phone in terms of upgrade for at least a couple of models now, whats been the highlights of the last 2, a better screen, and siri, of which noone who doesnt want to look like a penis uses anyway, every incarnation seems to have been a clutching at straws type affair
[Edited on 16-09-2012 by Steve]
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AlunJ
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quote:
Originally posted by Cavey
Conductive charging would of been a good progression
that is something I would have liked to have seen. Nokia can do it, why can't apple? No doubt the next one will carry it. iCharge
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mwg
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Originally posted by Cavey
Surely next year will be the 5s, so an even smaller upgrade?
You would think so. Or as LeeM would say, the iPhone 7
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LeeM
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nah theyve established it now, it will be the 5s. which is more annoying because it means we've now got to wait 2 years for a new phone.
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Dom
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Originally posted by mwg
I'm a bit underwhelmed by the 5. But I guess it's getting to the stage now where there's not really any massive leaps forward they can make? They've got an awesome screen already, fast processor, good camera & slick operating system. They just work. Not sure what else you can do but this is why I'm not a phone designer
Hardware-wise they could have added conductive charging, NFC (i suspect Apple want a piece of the pie hence why they haven't done it as they're still sorting that side out but NFC on the iPhone would have been a huge push to 'contactless'), better screen with better touch response (ie: what they have on the Lumia 920), improved camera sensor (where's the 12MP sensor?); the list is endless.
iOS really needs a UI refresh as well. The biggest recent change has been notifications but after 5 years, the UI is starting to look dated compared to competition.
As has been said, the difference between the 4S and the 5 is pretty minimal especially when you start comparing it against other phones or even previous generations of iPhone.
One thing you can't argue about is the design, it's pretty iconic and cool 
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John
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Design is lovely, I especially like they've kept it like that after all the 3G people said they hated it and are now spending £530 on a 5.
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A2H GO
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Originally posted by AlunJ
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Originally posted by Cavey
Conductive charging would of been a good progression
that is something I would have liked to have seen. Nokia can do it, why can't apple? No doubt the next one will carry it. iCharge
Conductive charging is nowhere near the stage it needs to be for Apple to adopt it. Its ridiculously slow, the phone/pad get very hot, it doesn't work using USB(has to be plugged into mains) and you have to run a wire to the pad anyway which kind of defeats the object as you might as well just put it in the end of your phone. 
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John
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A normal USB port provides a maximum of 500mA. This is barely enough to charge a phone as it is without the loses involved in wireless charging, that's why it doesn't work over USB.
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Mattb
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mine should be here friday - upgrade was due, so its costing £110 for the handset. im happy enough, its going to be miles better than my 3gs
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Cavey
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My point being, that if Apple wanted to actually innovate instead of just stealing and renaming ideas that have been around for a while I'm sure they would of been able to develop a decent method of wireless charging. Or at least something viable that would look cool
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ed
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Apple usually buy out companies which produce tech they think is useful. I wonder how many other phones are going to feature wireless charging in the next 6 months?
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A2H GO
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Is creating the worlds thinnest phone whilst improving just about every hardware component not innovative enough?
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John
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It's not the worlds thinnest phone.
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IvIarkgraham
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it has the worlds best os though 
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ed
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*most advanced.
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sc0ott
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Thinnest smart phone?
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Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by A2H GO
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Originally posted by AlunJ
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Originally posted by Cavey
Conductive charging would of been a good progression
that is something I would have liked to have seen. Nokia can do it, why can't apple? No doubt the next one will carry it. iCharge
Conductive charging is nowhere near the stage it needs to be for Apple to adopt it. Its ridiculously slow, the phone/pad get very hot, it doesn't work using USB(has to be plugged into mains) and you have to run a wire to the pad anyway which kind of defeats the object as you might as well just put it in the end of your phone.
Sounds like you've just read the 'con' sections of the inductive charging wiki page and pasted it here 
Actually the Qi systems used in the new Lumia's provides around 1A @ 5v (same as an Apple mains charger i believe), so the powers there and current reports suggest it's reasonable quick to charge the 920.
You've also missed the point of inductive/'wireless' charging a little. It isn't about a phone sitting on a pillow on your desk, rather it's about pushing the charging system to coffee shop/restaurant tables, car dashboards/centre consoles and such like and being able to dump your phone and it'll happily sit there topping up the battery.
Hence why Nokia has a deal with Coffee Bean to get the Qi system onto their tables.
I imagine if Apple stuck this into the iPhone 5 it would be a different story
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Dom
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Originally posted by ed
I wonder how many other phones are going to feature wireless charging in the next 6 months?
IIRC, the last time it was used in a mobile was the Palm Pre and that kind of flopped. But the system they used (their own from what i know) was suppose to be a bit cack and Palm generally didn't do too well with their phones any way.
But it looks like the technology is there with the Qi system but like any 'new' technology, NFC included, it really needs the push to get it to the masses.
And no doubt a lot of manufacturers will be looking at Nokia to see how well it does but i don't think they really have cult following, like Apple, to get the technology anywhere. If Apple stuffed inductive charging or NFC into one of the phones or tablets, everyone would tripping over themselves to get a bit of action. But we all know Apple likes to have a slice of the pie, so rather than joining up with other manufacturers and contributing to pushing a single system, they'll throw out their own.
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Cavey
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Slightly off topic as it's not iPhone related, but could they not use a Kinetic thing like the watches used to do, or would that obviously just not create enough electricity.
I'd imagine a watch takes the smallest amount to keep running whereas a phone needs a smidgen more?
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A2H GO
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quote:
Originally posted by Dom
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Originally posted by A2H GO
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Originally posted by AlunJ
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Originally posted by Cavey
Conductive charging would of been a good progression
that is something I would have liked to have seen. Nokia can do it, why can't apple? No doubt the next one will carry it. iCharge
Conductive charging is nowhere near the stage it needs to be for Apple to adopt it. Its ridiculously slow, the phone/pad get very hot, it doesn't work using USB(has to be plugged into mains) and you have to run a wire to the pad anyway which kind of defeats the object as you might as well just put it in the end of your phone.
You've also missed the point of inductive/'wireless' charging a little. It isn't about a phone sitting on a pillow on your desk, rather it's about pushing the charging system to coffee shop/restaurant tables, car dashboards/centre consoles and such like and being able to dump your phone and it'll happily sit there topping up the battery.
Looks like you missed the bit where I said its nowhere near the stage it needs to be for Apple to adopt it, as you've pointed out above.
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Nath
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*most advanced.
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