Robin
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not sure about the oil leak thingy willay
my brother in law had a cav sri 16v from new and it leaked oil from day 1
anyway.... brosters car
wooooooooooooooooooow 
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mav
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not wanting to get in on the argument......but..
well done broster will be 
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willay
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right, so from your logic, you are saying the c14/16/x14/16 or whatever, not one of them had an oil leak from day one? can you backup this statement?
[Edited on 01-10-2005 by willay]
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by willay
right, so are you saying the c14/16/x14/16 or whatever, not one of them had an oil leak from day one? can you backup this statement?
no, i cannot
and there was never a C14XE  
sorry 
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corsa120
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no argument just friendly banter, yeh i do agree rob wow
umm thats 1 cav out of how many....... ur welcome to come check my garage after 48 hrs of sitting though dout u will
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Robin
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i've never owned a c20 though, so i'm going on what i've seen and what people say
but i kinda see putting a c20xe in a corsa as like putting a kent crossflow in a mk4 fiesta, or somehting like that
i think taking a step back is the wrong way to do it
zetec into mk2 escort is the way to do it
but i've never experienced a 20xe first hand, so may be converted
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corsa120
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no u wont once u hear marks corsa, but then again u may if u hear xe on tb's joke
would u have same view if say mark went to c16xe instead of doin his??? same principal of goin backwards
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Dave A
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throttle bodies seem to be getting a lot more popular now, im well impressed with mine. i think i might go down the route of getting some cams soon, not sure about what to go for though.
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corsa120
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yeh urs is another job well done corsa808
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Robin
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yeah, cos its not as good an engine, the C16 had a few problems which vauxhall sorted out in the X16, like the pistons, which are too small for the cylinders
its a learning curve, and new versions of older stuff is generally better
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Puttin a 2ltr in my car was allot cheaper than all the work im gettin carried out atm, i thought about it, but thought in theory, more weight on the front end, isnt the way to go really, its no designed to fit a corsa, other wise they would have put them for sale, from factory. Its a cheaper route if u want more power, cheap and easy. Other wise rebuilding and tuning ur/a 1.6 is more expensive, if u want full power from it...... Let's all play happy familes 
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa808
throttle bodies seem to be getting a lot more popular now, im well impressed with mine. i think i might go down the route of getting some cams soon, not sure about what to go for though.
i've got a set of Kent 1601 profile ones you can have for 100 quid dude
i've got another pointier set i'm using, but the kent ones are pretty damn good
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Dave A
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more details on these kent cams mate, lift? duration?
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Robin
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244 degree duration
8.5mm lift
broster has them
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Dave A
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looking for a longer duration really.
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Robin
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fair enough
i got some 256 deg ones, that why i dont want the 244s so i know where you're coming from
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corsa120
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yeh ur right engine is not designed for corsa but things like clio 172's/206's etc etc all cope with 2.0 from factory. even vauxhall are considering new vxr in 2007 will be 1800 or 2lt turbo, huh thought 2.0 was too big, they already fit 1800 in new corsa-c and thats big block far as im concerned
all corsa engines werent designed to fit corsa until mr designer took out his pencil and decided what to put where and how to mount it, xe fits more snug than a x14/x16 due to loss of all the egr and shit they put on x16xe engines which every1 claims are better for tuning. i would no way have put xe in my corsa less i new it would remain safe and reliable as my car is daily used, and i have to say working on my old 1.4/1.6 over 4 yrs was shit my xe is so simple and less hassle due to more space round bay.
if technology is better the superior to xe was ecotec version which lost power to to this better technology u pointed out 130 bhp from new model hey brilliant rant ova lol
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lol@ this i knew it would turn into a "20xe is better than a 16xe" "no it aint" type thread... well with what i have spent on this engine i could have had a c20let fitted and it wouldn't have been standard i can say that much, but i decided to go for the 1.6 as it more fun IMO as the car is stipped etc and itll be more ideal for track days AGAIN IMO! mates nova, who im aiming to beat, sets a 14.3 second 1/4 mile but can go faster so this is the kinda times id be looking at! the ecu will help alot with that with the launch control (when fitted) and full throttle gear changes! lol
teddys face was a picture when we bumped it and flames came flickering from the exhaust!
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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa120
all corsa engines werent designed to fit corsa until mr designer took out his pencil and decided what to put where and how to mount it, xe fits more snug than a x14/x16 due to loss of all the egr and shit they put on x16xe engines which every1 claims are better for tuning.
rip all the egr shit off and there is bags of room lol! look at te piccies dude!
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corsa120
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yeh im not arguing which is better its just there seem to be a band of ppl on this site that seem to slate the xe engine and its as strong if not stronger than modern x16xe's, theres no compensation for cc, if i keep my car which im not likely tb's are on cards too for me.
obviously ppl aint even read what ive put im well impressed with ur car mark and my mrs goin down tb's route with her x16xe, not once in this thread have i said xe is better ive just backed up what ppl have said was bad about them, but id like to see what urs is like mark dude and possibly have a listen lol
[Edited on 02-10-2005 by corsa120]
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Gavin
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looking fooking mean mate...
pew pew pew pewwwww
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Ant
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Broster has summed it up himself really put his car up against icemans old car and we will see what happens, his is at the top end of the 1.6 scale with a lot of money spent on it... do the same to a 20xe and you will have a much quicker car, this 20xe corsa's dont handle argument is a load of old bollocks you just have to set them up right.
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corsa120
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well said i agree m8
well good luck to every1 with whatever u do lol
[Edited on 02-10-2005 by corsa120]
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Fad
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quote:
Originally posted by willay
right, so from your logic, you are saying the c14/16/x14/16 or whatever, not one of them had an oil leak from day one? can you backup this statement?
[Edited on 01-10-2005 by willay]
Right this is rediculous arguing over whats superior and whats not....
Right i've owned both a semi tuned 1.4 16v and a semi tuned XE
I can honestly say my X14xe leaked more than my 20xe so prooves the point its got nothing to do with technology and basically is a load of cobblers.
For all those who commented the XE's are boring and common havent
a) driven one and
b) Owned one.
Its just Like that urban myth that they dont handle well  Surely its popular for a good reason?
I've owned both and appreciate they appeal to different people. I love JR's tuned 1.6 as it suits the car he is aiming for and has opend my eyes to another way of thinking...power to weight ratio etc
I love my 20XE for two reasons its a practial usuable every day car now and it has a great torque spread that allows me to accelerate from any gear when i put my foot down and is fun to drive.
I feel half the people in this thread are making comments without any real expereince and are just going on opinion from a game of Chinese whispers.
I can say despite the problems i have had I would choose the C20 XE every time....You look at the people on this board who do the engine conversions (Lee Mitchell, Dan, Beardy) They all run 20xe/Lets over the small block XEs and they know pretty much everything there is to know about Corsas IMO
I also realise insurance is a main contributary factor to what engine you go for hence why more and more people tune the small block XE's.
No offence is intended at all Rob and Matt but unless you've owned a tuned c20xe you cant really comment on which is better as earlier you both made sweeping statements which I belive was based on a clouded judgement.
Oh and before i forget great work Mark I really am liking that would love to see how it goes up the 1/4 although I am guessing its best suited to a track 
[Edited on 02-10-2005 by Fad]
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Originally posted by Mattss Corsa
2ltr's are boring everyone has them or wants them in a corsa now, boring!
Im being different aswell, and taking marks move
I take it you have never driven a 2.0 Corsa then. They a FAR from boring!
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