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Ojc
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7th Jan 09 at 20:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I sit in my sisters 2 year old BMW and don't see anything better in there than the Astra, the dash has better layout but it's not better screwed together.

The Astra with SATNAV & climate has a better layout but that is expensive and totally pointless just for a coloured screen and a few different button combinations.
Nic Barnes
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a point to make that has nothing to do with the audi is better than vauxhall argument/discussion.

notice the lack of jap cars on that list? i find that a bit odd.
Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by Joe
quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
I love that argument, i work with such and such a make so i know there shit! Yeah cos people bring perfectly fine working cars to garages dont they


But when preparing 57/08 reg cars for going to the new customer you can build an opinion?

I'm just talking about why I think Vauxhall are cheaper/other brands command a premium.


Audi command a premium because of a reputation exactly like Nic has pointed out already, not because the cars are better. That is it.
Joe
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7th Jan 09 at 20:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The Astra climate is pretty rubbish, pointlessly complicated to use.
Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by Joe
The Astra climate is pretty rubbish, pointlessly complicated to use.


For once I agree, should have seen in the Astra G
Joe
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7th Jan 09 at 20:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
quote:
Originally posted by Joe
quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
I love that argument, i work with such and such a make so i know there shit! Yeah cos people bring perfectly fine working cars to garages dont they


But when preparing 57/08 reg cars for going to the new customer you can build an opinion?

I'm just talking about why I think Vauxhall are cheaper/other brands command a premium.


Audi command a premium because of a reputation exactly like Nic has pointed out already, not because the cars are better. That is it.


yeah you are right Oliver, sorry.
Tommy L
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7th Jan 09 at 20:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Aren't jap cars supposed to be super reliable?
Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
a point to make that has nothing to do with the audi is better than vauxhall argument/discussion.

notice the lack of jap cars on that list? i find that a bit odd.


That is a strange one, you would have thought the Civic would have been on there or even the Seat Leon/Ibiza.
Joe
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7th Jan 09 at 20:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
quote:
Originally posted by Joe
The Astra climate is pretty rubbish, pointlessly complicated to use.


For once I agree, should have seen in the Astra G


Thats just what I mean though, there seems to be no thought with Vauxhall.

The fact you can't see all of the fan direction settings on your Astra? No cupholders? Badly thought out things let them down, things just aren't nicely laid out for you.
Ojc
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7th Jan 09 at 20:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Joe
quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
quote:
Originally posted by Joe
quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
I love that argument, i work with such and such a make so i know there shit! Yeah cos people bring perfectly fine working cars to garages dont they


But when preparing 57/08 reg cars for going to the new customer you can build an opinion?

I'm just talking about why I think Vauxhall are cheaper/other brands command a premium.


Audi command a premium because of a reputation exactly like Nic has pointed out already, not because the cars are better. That is it.


yeah you are right Oliver, sorry.


TBH you would fit in better here

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/
Joe
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7th Jan 09 at 20:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
a point to make that has nothing to do with the audi is better than vauxhall argument/discussion.

notice the lack of jap cars on that list? i find that a bit odd.


That is a strange one, you would have thought the Civic would have been on there or even the Seat Leon/Ibiza.


The new Civic is a lovely car. Obviously doesn't sell too well though.
Ojc
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7th Jan 09 at 20:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Joe
quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
quote:
Originally posted by Joe
The Astra climate is pretty rubbish, pointlessly complicated to use.


For once I agree, should have seen in the Astra G


Thats just what I mean though, there seems to be no thought with Vauxhall.

The fact you can't see all of the fan direction settings on your Astra? No cupholders? Badly thought out things let them down, things just aren't nicely laid out for you.


Yeah, don't want to be spilling your cappuccino over your Gucci loafers would we?
John
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7th Jan 09 at 20:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I think audi is higher quality than vauxhall.

VW are going down in the quality stakes but still higher than vauxhall.
Robin
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7th Jan 09 at 20:43   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Lots of people in this country have good taste


Agreed, 49,384 of them
Joe
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7th Jan 09 at 20:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc

Yeah, don't want to be spilling your cappuccino over your Gucci loafers would we?


Do you not agree though? You don't realise how handy a decent cup holder is till its there, may I add the one in my Audi is superb.

and I don't own any Gucci loafers
Tommy L
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7th Jan 09 at 20:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Is yours one that you push and it pops out and you squeeze it together to grip it, Joe? That most prob makes no sense
Nic Barnes
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7th Jan 09 at 20:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
a point to make that has nothing to do with the audi is better than vauxhall argument/discussion.

notice the lack of jap cars on that list? i find that a bit odd.


That is a strange one, you would have thought the Civic would have been on there or even the Seat Leon/Ibiza.


yeah, there are a lot of good jap cars and people buy them purely based on the reliability reputation. im actually a bit amazed not to see any jap cars in that list as id have thought it would have had a few.
Adam_B
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7th Jan 09 at 20:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Jap cars mostly have higher running costs though, parts especially.
Nic Barnes
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7th Jan 09 at 20:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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Originally posted by Adam_B
Jap cars mostly have higher running costs though, parts especially.


true i guess, but you'd expect them require less fixing and maintenance. atleast thats what all the people i know that bought new or nearly new jap stuff say as one of the main reasons they did.
Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by Joe
quote:
Originally posted by Ojc

Yeah, don't want to be spilling your cappuccino over your Gucci loafers would we?


Do you not agree though? You don't realise how handy a decent cup holder is till its there, may I add the one in my Audi is superb.

and I don't own any Gucci loafers


The best cup holders I have EVER come across are in a Corsa B, the ones in the glovebox are awesome, Coke cans and McDonalds cups fit perfectly.
Nic Barnes
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7th Jan 09 at 20:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
quote:
Originally posted by Joe
quote:
Originally posted by Ojc

Yeah, don't want to be spilling your cappuccino over your Gucci loafers would we?


Do you not agree though? You don't realise how handy a decent cup holder is till its there, may I add the one in my Audi is superb.

and I don't own any Gucci loafers


The best cup holders I have EVER come across are in a Corsa B, the ones in the glovebox are awesome, Coke cans and McDonalds cups fit perfectly.


nissan/renault/vauxhall vans have the best cup holders in the world. can actually just squeeze a super size burger king cup into them to stop them wobbling about.
Tommy L
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7th Jan 09 at 20:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Super size?
Kevxx
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quote:
Originally posted by Joe
quote:
Originally posted by Ojc

Yeah, don't want to be spilling your cappuccino over your Gucci loafers would we?


Do you not agree though? You don't realise how handy a decent cup holder is till its there, may I add the one in my Audi is superb.

and I don't own any Gucci loafers


jesus thats low, a cupholder is the difference when buying a car?

Vauxhall do good cheap cars people can afford to run, and they have better models for those who want a bit more push!

Audi aren't much different except to get the one's that are good you pay silly ammount of money, like someone said a 1.6 16v standard a4 will cost more than a much better ranged astra or mondeo!

Nic Barnes
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7th Jan 09 at 20:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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Originally posted by corsa_tomtom
Super size?


i like food. things like that are important to me when chosing a vehicle to go on a food run.
Kevxx
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
quote:
Originally posted by Joe
quote:
Originally posted by Ojc

Yeah, don't want to be spilling your cappuccino over your Gucci loafers would we?


Do you not agree though? You don't realise how handy a decent cup holder is till its there, may I add the one in my Audi is superb.

and I don't own any Gucci loafers


The best cup holders I have EVER come across are in a Corsa B, the ones in the glovebox are awesome, Coke cans and McDonalds cups fit perfectly.


then you think about shaking or moving and it spillls...nah
I like super size from BK and the corsa has no where to put that!

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