MarkM
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I'm a solicitor and without uni I couldn't be one.
Simples.
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saj_123
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Originally posted by MarkM
I'm a solicitor and without uni I couldn't be one.
Simples.
Thank you this is what I was going to say, I am want to become a solicitor when a graduate, but I am not expecting to be earning massive sums of money when I graduate. There is no real other way that I could become a solictor without going to Uni. 
[Edited on 04-03-2010 by saj_123]
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Graham88
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I can't remember who said about people not staying with careers for life, I think I must be different then as I fully intend to stay with London Underground for life, there is no reason for me ever to leave.
I love the job (ok so that might change), great pension, great job prospects, great pay, not too stressful, I love the working hours and the people who I work with are a good crack.
I'm on 31k basic, next level is 39k, after that its 55k, after that it just keeps going up and up. Please tell me somebody who can walk out of Uni with a bit of paper and into a job on that kind of money?
Ok so I might have got lucky but I still look at mates who've been at Uni and they're now working in Frankie & Bennys feeling happy with their £6.50 an hour, I try to hide the fact I'm laughing at their misfortune tbh.
Uni is for suckers.
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Fad
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Originally posted by Graham88
I'm on 31k basic, next level is 39k, after that its 55k, after that it just keeps going up and up. Please tell me somebody who can walk out of Uni with a bit of paper and into a job on that kind of money?
Uni is for suckers.
Well I know several people who walked into jobs well over your pay grade stright from uni. One of them is only 22 and driving around in a Masseratti Grand Tourismo.
University is not for suckers, its not all about money as you learn much more. Uni isnt for everyone but if someone wants to do it, then good for them. I find the people who are disgrunted by students are just people pissed off that their mates left them and went off to do other things.
Not everyone wants to spend every Saturday night burning around Lakeside trying to race people.
Further to that I agree for some people a job for ls great if you are motivated by it. For example my mum has worked for the NHS Trust for 35 years now and still loves it. If I had found QS'ing back in the day who's to say I would still like it now. The fact I went to Uni and tried different things means I have a variety of skills I can apply to any job I do now.
[Edited on 04-03-2010 by Fad]
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Graham88
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Yeah you're always going to get the select few who get lucky, otherwise nobody would do it? Then they are used as the example for other people trying to get into Uni when infact they'll probably never get that lucky when they finish 3 years at Uni
I believe it is, maybe you learn a bit about life, meet alot of new people, that's probably the only bit I wanted to go to Uni for and probably the reason why many do but that's up to them, I'll stick with earning money and still meeting people thanks.
As for the last comment it's quite irrelevant to the whole subject so I'm not going to comment.
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ed
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If you do a shit degree then you get nowhere. If you do a good degree then you get your foot in the door for a good job. Why are people so belligerent against this fact?
I know plenty of people who have done very well for themselves. They also wont, in 10 years time, be fat bald and hating their shitty boring lives. There's more to life than the size of your paycheck.
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Fad
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I think its perfectly relevant, it just shows people have different outlooks on life doesnt neccessrily mean they are suckers, to most people we would seem suckers for spending loads of money on cars. See the point?
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Fad
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Originally posted by ed
If you do a shit degree then you get nowhere. If you do a good degree then you get your foot in the door for a good job. Why are people so belligerent against this fact?
I know plenty of people who have done very well for themselves. They also wont, in 10 years time, be fat bald and hating their shitty boring lives. There's more to life than the size of your paycheck.
See how hard is this for people to understand this.
[Edited on 04-03-2010 by Fad]
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Graham88
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Originally posted by ed
There's more to life than the size of your paycheck.
But that's what the main point of the thread was surely...?
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Originally posted by Fad
I think its perfectly relevant, it just shows people have different outlooks on life doesnt neccessrily mean they are suckers, to most people we would seem suckers for spending loads of money on cars. See the point?
Yeah I do see your point I never denied that some people do well out of Uni I'm talking about the majority and more so the people who I see come out of Uni with nothing to show for it. As you say it's a case of what different people like but I think you put your comment across in a silly way.
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ed
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I thought it was about student loans and how much you have to pay back.
Then it deteriorated into people measuring their worth by the amount of money they earn.
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Graham88
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Apparently I got the wrong idea then 
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antnee
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People who do proper degrees (medicine, law, engineering, etc) or specialist (motorsport, etc) that are accredited will end up with good jobs and good career prospects. The people who do general things like business, music, english, etc are less likely to get a good job unless they fall lucky!
I originally didn't want to go to uni, but after looking around M.Sport eng seemed a really good and ideal course for me to do. I want to work with cars because, as sad as it sounds, its what motivates and interests me! If I did anything else I would just end up being distracted by cars anyway
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jr
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i didnt go to uni, dont get payed very well and still wouldnt have changed anything ive done, except maybe join the fire service and realise work is not sitting with your mates in an audi dealership setting airbags off
as all the shit in this thread about uni this and associated bollocks, theres alot of hate from both sides, people saying how much they get payed and didnt go to uni, yeah thats fine but will you still want to be doing it in 20 years ?, same with people that go to uni and then think they can look down on the non uni goers as some type of weird lower class
[Edited on 05-03-2010 by jr]
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by Graham88
Yeah you're always going to get the select few who get lucky, otherwise nobody would do it? Then they are used as the example for other people trying to get into Uni when infact they'll probably never get that lucky when they finish 3 years at Uni
The thing is though, you're one of the select few who didnt go and is on good pay with good prospects straight away.
I know loads of people who didnt go to Uni, and cant get in to any job where not on is the starting wage good, but the prospects are shite.
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antnee
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by Graham88
Yeah you're always going to get the select few who get lucky, otherwise nobody would do it? Then they are used as the example for other people trying to get into Uni when infact they'll probably never get that lucky when they finish 3 years at Uni
The thing is though, you're one of the select few who didnt go and is on good pay with good prospects straight away.
I know loads of people who didnt go to Uni, and cant get in to any job where not on is the starting wage good, but the prospects are shite.
Tight bastard, pay your staff more then
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saj_123
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by Graham88
Yeah you're always going to get the select few who get lucky, otherwise nobody would do it? Then they are used as the example for other people trying to get into Uni when infact they'll probably never get that lucky when they finish 3 years at Uni
The thing is though, you're one of the select few who didnt go and is on good pay with good prospects straight away.
I know loads of people who didnt go to Uni, and cant get in to any job where not on is the starting wage good, but the prospects are shite.
I know people who have not gone to Uni, and they left school at 16 and became plumers or electricians etc and now they are unemployed, so it depends on too many factors to decide which is better. 
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Graham88
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by Graham88
Yeah you're always going to get the select few who get lucky, otherwise nobody would do it? Then they are used as the example for other people trying to get into Uni when infact they'll probably never get that lucky when they finish 3 years at Uni
The thing is though, you're one of the select few who didnt go and is on good pay with good prospects straight away.
I know loads of people who didnt go to Uni, and cant get in to any job where not on is the starting wage good, but the prospects are shite.
Fair comment, and I admitted that maybe I have got lucky. I suppose the long and short of it is that it's pot luck if you get lucky with a job when you leave school and it's pot luck if you get a job that your degree helped you get when you leave Uni.
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saj_123
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I am going to be in approximately £15,000 after I complete my degree, I only started in September, got a long way yet.
Miscalculated that more like £21,000 
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Carl
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Originally posted by Graham88
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by Graham88
Yeah you're always going to get the select few who get lucky, otherwise nobody would do it? Then they are used as the example for other people trying to get into Uni when infact they'll probably never get that lucky when they finish 3 years at Uni
The thing is though, you're one of the select few who didnt go and is on good pay with good prospects straight away.
I know loads of people who didnt go to Uni, and cant get in to any job where not on is the starting wage good, but the prospects are shite.
Fair comment, and I admitted that maybe I have got lucky. I suppose the long and short of it is that it's pot luck if you get lucky with a job when you leave school and it's pot luck if you get a job that your degree helped you get when you leave Uni.
the more choice/opportunity you have,the more chance you have of dropping lucky!
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MarkM
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Graham88 I'm someone who has walked out of uni and a year in law college with a piece of paper and got a job far in excess of your wage.
Uni should only be for the commencement of defined career paths.
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deano87
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Interesting read this and all points are valid.
But at the end of the day, some people went to Uni because they wanted to end up in a career they wanted to be in and enjoy getting up for every day. This is why my dad 'pushed' me. Granted, those who didn't go to Uni may enjoy their work but I know I will always enjoy getting up in the morning, because of the doors Uni opened.
I got lucky in terms of getting a job, in a role that gives me loads of responsibility, but yeah, I only earn £15k per year. This is partly due to falling into employment right in the thick of a recession.
But I'm also lucky in that the work I do is a very niche industry so having a head start with experience should stand me in good stead for future jobs. I just have to sit tight not earning much. All will come to fruition.
And if we get the £750,000 project come in that I found, then I'll get a nice bit of commission which would boost my annual earnings 
[Edited on 07-03-2010 by deano87]
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pow
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I want to go to uni for the social aspect now. Fuck the degree IN MY LINE OF WORK I don't need that
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ed
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Uni: It's not like Hollyoaks.
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Graham88
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Originally posted by MarkM
Graham88 I'm someone who has walked out of uni and a year in law college with a piece of paper and got a job far in excess of your wage.
Uni should only be for the commencement of defined career paths.
Fair play
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pow
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Uni: It's not like Hollyoaks.
I beg to differ. My ex girlfriend has prooved this.
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