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harrisp
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22nd Dec 10 at 17:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by sand-eel
LWB shogun?
They have a massive boot and have proper High range, High range 4x4, Low range 4x4, Low range diff lock. Some might have a rear LSD too.


Its a centre difflock though nothing like a proper locking diff.

A mate of mine has just bought a top spec range rover sport with a twin turbo diesel engine or something but it hasnt moved once, hes been using his defender on 33s with locking diffs and hasnt had any problems in the snow.
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Yeah a centre diff lock makes sure both front and back wheels go at the same speed, its extremely rare to get front/ rear difflocks and aftermarket ones are fucking expensive.
I don't really understand what a proper diff lock is as you need a seperate one for each diff.
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Originally posted by sand-eel
Yeah a centre diff lock makes sure both front and back wheels go at the same speed, its extremely rare to get front/ rear difflocks and aftermarket ones are fucking expensive.
I don't really understand what a proper diff lock is as you need a seperate one for each diff.


People say cars have locking diffs when they dont they have a centre difflock which is nothing like a locking diff in the axle and not really any benefit offroad.
A "proper" difflock doesnt have to be that expensive, air locking diffs are big money though because you have to buy a compressor etc to have incar.
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WTF, any proper offroader has a centre diff. 4 wheel drive cars usually never have a centre diff
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Eg nissan xtrails don't have a centre diff, thats why if you put it in 4x4 mode on tarmac you will fuck the propshaft.
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Cars only as good as it's tyres and anything with a Land Rover badge on it will be more than capable off road or in the snow when it's got the right shoes on...
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24th Dec 10 at 18:00   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Range Rover - Pah

had no trouble in this the other week



its all about the tyres!
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Originally posted by sand-eel
WTF, any proper offroader has a centre diff. 4 wheel drive cars usually never have a centre diff


WTF no they dont and the propshaft is likely to be the last thing to break, transmission wind up will break a diff or a transfer box before anything else, 4wd cars usually have a centre diff to allow difference in speed between front and rear wheels.

SJs
Vitaras
Fourtraks
Frontera
Troopers
Moneterys,
None of them have centre diffs so I guess none of them are "proper" proper offroaders.

[Edited on 24-12-2010 by harrisp]
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my old isuzu big horn 3.1d was epic in this weather. it would drive over anything!!!
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You are actually right that the transmission will break first aye.
In the case of 4x4 cars I would call them transfer boxes eg you don't call a 4x4 calibra's mechanics a centre diff, you would look for a transfer box, just a quick google there and the likes of evos/imprezas there are more results for "transfer box" instead of "centre diff".
Also I WOULD said proper 4x4s have a centre diff eg shoguns/discos/defenders etc.
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Personal preference for terminology maybe?

[Edited on 24-12-2010 by sand-eel]
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FYI Impreza's dont have transfer boxes.. Theres an ouput at both ends of the layshaft.
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Never knew that, just typed in impreza transfer case and lots of stuff appeared, didn't read any though.
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Tbh you all need this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPyFTZUOm1o&feature=related
DaveyLC
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LOL LADA NIVA FTW

I bought myself a Quad last night for some snow fun

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