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Ste

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22nd Aug 11 at 09:55

There are many reason why an aircraft could go down like that.

If anyone remembers AT29 crashing during a test flight from Warton 15 years ago, it went down a similar way. As he rolled, a loose washer jammed the rudder actuator and held the aircraft in a right hand roll. Similar thing could have happened to the hawk.

Vid here is what they show us in work and is actual footage and cockpit voice too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLcVIgmcVpw

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Kerry

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22nd Aug 11 at 14:05

Ive heard it was bird strike

sand-eel

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22nd Aug 11 at 14:07

quote:
Originally posted by CorsaDave
G suits don't force blood to the head, they attempt to stop it draining away in the first place.

Think I used the wrong terminology there....They have bags that inflate on your arms/ legs which force blood away from them...thus increasing pressure to your brain.

Steve

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22nd Aug 11 at 14:08

yeah loads of reasons why it went down but i cant work out why he didnt eject as he couldve ejected at 1 meter off the ground if he wanted

Kerry

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22nd Aug 11 at 14:12

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/8715128/Second-Red-Arrows-pilot-forced-to-make-emergency-landing-following-bird-strike.html

Kerry

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22nd Aug 11 at 14:15

interesting read ^^^

sand-eel

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22nd Aug 11 at 14:23

His wife doesn't really seem that upset...who would chat to the press like that the next day

Ben J

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22nd Aug 11 at 14:23

Yeah. I thought the same.

RAF widow tho. Cha Ching.

Kerry

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22nd Aug 11 at 14:24

Thats what I thought, but then I couldnt even read a poem at my own wedding without crying

CorsAsh

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22nd Aug 11 at 15:53

Some people deal with death better than others. Given he's been an active serviceman, she's probably prepared herself somewhat for when the worst happens.

VegasPhil

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22nd Aug 11 at 18:27

quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
Some people deal with death better than others. Given he's been an active serviceman, she's probably prepared herself somewhat for when the worst happens.

I reckon they probably covered in pillow talk. What would you do if your plane was crashing towards people or you could steer it away?

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22nd Aug 11 at 18:33

quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
Some people deal with death better than others. Given he's been an active serviceman, she's probably prepared herself somewhat for when the worst happens.

Exactly that. Maybe it's a brave face, maybe she had already accepted it before now.

Jambo

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22nd Aug 11 at 18:37

Set that video

the guy in the sea

Dan

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22nd Aug 11 at 18:44

She must be hard as nails.

Theres no way i could give an interview like that after losing a loved one.

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Ben G

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22nd Aug 11 at 19:41

quote:
Originally posted by Ben J
Yeah. I thought the same.

RAF widow tho. Cha Ching.

no jokes allowed in here mate

Kerry

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25th Aug 11 at 14:57

Red Arrows are cleared to fly again but no details have been released yet on cause amid speculation its bird strike

Not sure they are going to carry on for rest of the season either. But I bet theres a fair few turn up to watch them leave bournemouth and arrive at scampton on saturday

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14666350

Ben G

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25th Aug 11 at 15:03

there was a pic in the sun yesterday taken by someone in the crowd which clearly shows some sort of flame on the underside of the plane.

Ben G

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25th Aug 11 at 15:04

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3770828/Flash-of-fire-on-doomed-Red-Arrow.html

Kerry

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25th Aug 11 at 15:39

ooo yeh i saw that! I read a woman said she saw half a dead swan in the river too

Steve

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25th Aug 11 at 15:41

if it was a bird strike that sent the plane down the bird would have gone in the jet intake and would no longer be recognisable

Ste

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25th Aug 11 at 15:48

Not necessarily. I've seen plenty of bird strikes down intakes and they haven't caused a crash. if it was something the size of a swan hitting a control surface it could easily bring it down. They aren't telling anything yet but if it hit the windscreen and gone into his face that could also cause him to crash.

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Jamie Walby

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25th Aug 11 at 15:55

I have a regular customer comes into my shop used to fly Vulcans. When he was in on Tuesday he said he had 6 bird strikes in his time.

Not sure what thats got to do with anything but thought I would share.

Steve

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25th Aug 11 at 16:28

lol

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25th Aug 11 at 16:40

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
there was a pic in the sun yesterday taken by someone in the crowd which clearly shows some sort of flame on the underside of the plane.

its quite clearly a navagational light, one on the top of the fuselarge too

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25th Aug 11 at 16:56

ufo imo

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