AK
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
Ever noticed how people with slow cars always go on about handling? 5mph more round a corner can't be that much more exciting.
5mph round a corner can be very different...
In a bad/poor handling car 50mph round a medium speed corner could just be understeer then long delay 'till application of power - slow out of the corner.
In a well set up/good handling car the 55mph could be very neutral, no slide and allowing much earlier application of power - much faster overall and better experience.
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AK
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
So you need power for lap times? Interesting. Kinda proves a lot of this handling on slow cars to be pointless!!
ofcourse they are linked numbnuts.
You need BOTH.
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3CorsaMeal
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Ignore Nic Barnes, he is just trolling and dropping spam all over the place
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AK
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have to say that a lot of cars dont really handle well out of the box and many are subjective (like Paul said).
If someone is used to a car, knows its shortfalls and can drive it in a positive and confident manner then it may appear that the car handles well. Give that car to someone else and they think its pish 
Case in hand - my Impreza.
A lot of folk say it handles very well - Ian, Cole etc have been out in it. It turns in well, generally has lots of grip and has good brakes BUT when Fee drives the car she thinks its way to skitty and RWD biased (the way I have it).
I drive her car and get the impression i'm driving a truck.
With time in both you'd learn to adapt.
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antnee
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Originally posted by BarnshaW
why not just buy an old E36 325 or 328 or a 1995 sti impreza or similar and it will no doubt handle better, be faster and be cheaper to start with?
Going on this point, it just depends what you want to do, I like tinkering, like not being suspected of being quick in my Ibiza. Starting off with a 'not so good car' makes it more of a challenge, my Ibiza will be very similar to the holy grail of FWD, the clio if I had done the same mods to both.
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big eck
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Originally posted by chris_uk
i think the majority of people who are saying POWER (clarkson voice) dont even drive a car with more than 250bhp.
My last 2 cara have both been over 270bhp. My LCR is a prime example, it's totally standard suspension wise but it still handles very well. Fair enough maybe not on a track but for road use it's adequate.
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chris_uk
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I think some of it is in the build too.
I really enjoyed building mine but i really do think that the more ive done the less real world fun i receive.
Sure beating pretty much everything on the road apart from some exotic automobilia is great and the same goes for on track but you have to be consentrating 100% at all times. I really miss getting in my old state of tune 170bhp na and just thrashing it around, chucking it in knowing that i really dont have that much power to be going silly fast. Atm if i even squeeze the throttle down for a couple of seconds im into triple figures. That said i loved getting in my standard micra and really abusing it on the b roads. Lol
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chris_uk
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Originally posted by big eck
quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
i think the majority of people who are saying POWER (clarkson voice) dont even drive a car with more than 250bhp.
My last 2 cara have both been over 270bhp. My LCR is a prime example, it's totally standard suspension wise but it still handles very well. Fair enough maybe not on a track but for road use it's adequate.
I didnt say everyone 
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antnee
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Agree with you Chris, my suspension is too hard for the road really (B road thrashes) just gets too unsettled
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John
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So basically it depends on exactly what you use the car for and your own preference.
So someone who says power, even if it's not an elite approved 250+ bhp, is as correct as someone who says handling, no matter what handling means to them.
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Mike
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My requirements for cars are handling for the Corsa, load space and economy for the Combo and my next car will be about power and comfort for pulling the Corsa about, it'll still be under 250bhp though, probably under 200 realistically.
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micra_pete
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Originally posted by John
So basically it depends on exactly what you use the car for and your own preference.
So someone who says power, even if it's not an elite approved 250+ bhp, is as correct as someone who says handling, no matter what handling means to them.
No John.
I have an elite 300bhp car and an elite handling puma, I also have god like driving ability.
Power wins.
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John
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I said power, my driving consists of going to work and back, fear of a bad handling car on a corner is just as much fun as fear of a good handling car. The bad handling more powerful one just means I can catch up with the next car in front a bit quicker.
If I wanted to have internet points or go on track my needs might be different.
I also have neither at the moment, I get my thrills when it's raining and corners are like driving on ice.
[Edited on 17-07-2012 by John]
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chris_uk
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Pete, is it your puma with te angry bird on it?
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micra_pete
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was a wind up John, I agree with you.
Angry Bird Chris? sometimes one driving it.
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Nic Barnes
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Without power, you will never have fun.
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chris_uk
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Someone took me out in their puma at combe. I cant remember who it was.
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chris_uk
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
Without power, you will never have fun.
Ok mate.
I aint argueing with you, id have more luck talking to a wall.
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Steve
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Thread is full of troll banter
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neil h
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
Without power, you will never have fun.
In a corsa, you will never have fun 
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corsadonk
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quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
Someone took me out in their puma at combe. I cant remember who it was.
You're thinking of Nick, I know him as Dark horse off Mig.
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smcGSI16V
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Handling all day long for me.
Chris and Paul have hit the nail on the head to be honest.
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Nick-S
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I want to say handling but if im honest its power i use more oftern on my trips to and from work.
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chris_uk
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Originally posted by corsadonk
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Originally posted by chris_uk
Someone took me out in their puma at combe. I cant remember who it was.
You're thinking of Nick, I know him as Dark horse off Mig.
ah is that his name, i thought he might be from here or weekend racer.
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tom130691
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handling for me, speed in a straight line takes no skill and is boring
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