Butler
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more pics of that one in me garage
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PIE CJ
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15's are the way forward on saxo/106. 17's are chavs wheels !
some 16's are ok,
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NovaGTE
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My old two
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stuartmitchell
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Originally posted by corsa5dr
VTS and GTI are EXACTLY the same performance wise. End of story. Anyone who says otherwise is a numpty
can honestly say I destroyed every vts I came up agains at crail and im one shit driver on the strip 
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Paul_J
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Originally posted by corsa5dr
VTS and GTI are EXACTLY the same performance wise. End of story. Anyone who says otherwise is a numpty
can honestly say I destroyed every vts I came up agains at crail and im one shit driver on the strip
Your car was far from standard though 
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PIE CJ
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well up stoke my vts was the fastest out the 106/vts lads by far 
from the top of one of the slip rds to our asda turn off, the other could get between 125-128
my best was 137 bit faster dont u think
i never came up against 1 gti that was even worth playin with. mind u most of the vts/gti only had exhausts n filters
muhahahaha
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stuartmitchell
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Originally posted by Paul_J
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Originally posted by stuartmitchell
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Originally posted by corsa5dr
VTS and GTI are EXACTLY the same performance wise. End of story. Anyone who says otherwise is a numpty
can honestly say I destroyed every vts I came up agains at crail and im one shit driver on the strip
Your car was far from standard though
induction kit, and full piper exhaust........yeah totally maxed
the vts's werent standard either 
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PIE CJ
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thats is lovely. really like that one
thumbs up !
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Paul_J
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Originally posted by stuartmitchell
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Originally posted by Paul_J
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Originally posted by stuartmitchell
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Originally posted by corsa5dr
VTS and GTI are EXACTLY the same performance wise. End of story. Anyone who says otherwise is a numpty
can honestly say I destroyed every vts I came up agains at crail and im one shit driver on the strip
Your car was far from standard though
induction kit, and full piper exhaust........yeah totally maxed
the vts's werent standard either
I thought you bought your car with the 148 bhp stuff already done to it?
I've seen loads of saxo / 106 gti's doing under 15.4's ... If you could only do that with 148 bhp, when you had a lot less power (if you say only exhaust and filter), I doubt you were beating every VTS you ever saw at crail.
PIE CJ, so you never got your car rolling roaded or put it down the 1/4 mile?
Maybe you just got lucky with a quick standard one, but there's no difference between Gti's and Vts's in theory. The fact you can have differences between 2 standard Gti's, or 2 standard Vts's (i.e. 1 VTS make 120 bhp, another make 128) - it's quite possible this is why some seemed slower? or just shit drivers?
Paul J
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Paul_J
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Hmm... hang on - I was thinking your car had cams Stuart ^ ignore the above.
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stuartmitchell
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I changed the exhaust but the fact still remains it wasn't extensively modified as you previously suggested and I can guarantee you it made 148.8 bhp on the rollers, that was with a custom exhaust too.
I can also guarantee you I beat every vts I came up against but if you think otherwise then thats sound  nobody reading this could really give a fuck anyway
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mk4_astra
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kano your rallye is probably the nicest ive ever seen
i think gti's/vts are great little cars but if i had the money i would find myself a mint mk1 rallye and 16v it 
also i know someone with a rallye which has motorbike TB's fitted which work out alot cheaper than normal TB's
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stuartmitchell
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Hmm... hang on - I was thinking your car had cams Stuart ^ ignore the above.
sound bud, reckon my car would of exploded with cams 
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PIE CJ
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mine made 133bhp@fly with viper n magnex and decat
then 133@wheel with everything done
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Paul_J
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CJ what did you have done engine wise?
Mine made 141 @ fly with ecosse (with green inside) pugsport + decat, I wanna put 708 cat cams in, 4-2-1 manifold and remap it.
[Edited on 04-01-2006 by Paul_J]
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PIE CJ
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Viper Induction Kit
Magnex Full System
Magnex Dec-Cat Pipe
Miltek S/Steel 4-2-1 Manifold
PT51 Kent Cams
Collins Power Chip
Rev Limiter Raised To 8000rpm
1st - 42mph
2nd - 72mph
3rd - 103mph (ish from memory)
4th 130mph (ish from memory)
5th 1 Inch Off the Clock @ 7400Rpm
Beat - endless Escort Rs turbos/R5 turbos/XE Corsa/2L Nova/VR6's/Golf Gti's
EVEN Pushed a golf R32 to 120mph
[Edited on 04-01-2006 by PIE CJ]
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Paul_J
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nice ^ I wish I could take my car off the clocks  or even over a ton
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PIE CJ
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cant remember the torque, sure it was somewhere around 132lb, cant remember, sold the saxo in jan '04'
BIG MISTAKE ! missed it ever since !
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Paul_J
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^ What do you drive now?
ever been caught speeding 
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Doug
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Went out in twiggys, Nice car and pretty fast 
Any idea of tourque figures?
What are the engine specs of the rallys?
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Paul_J
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107 standard supposedly.
Mine made 120 lb ft of torque when it made 141 at the fly
The torque is quite low, but it's all up one end hence the power.
Just means you have to work a bit harder (keep it in powerband) and it's a bit slower in 4th / 5th.
[Edited on 05-01-2006 by Paul_J]
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Doug
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Thats very low
What sort of gains can be made with just a decent air filter? want more torque than that lol
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Paul_J
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4-2-1 exhaust manifold increases torque.
Throttle bodies will increase torque greatly
the reason the torque is low is because its a 1.6. If you compare the torque of the 106 gti and a corsa Gsi, they're basically around the same.
The term 'no replacement for displacement'.
How the torque is used is important to remember, not just what peak torque is.
Civic Type R - a known quick hot hatch, also has very little torque in comparison to it's peak BHP.
At the end of the day? real world difference? Obviously more torque is better, but if the car is quick - then who cares. You just have to rev the arse off it.
A typical example.
A 2.0 16v Corsa XE - 150 bhp / 150 lb ft of torque
1/4 mile of around 15.5's (I'm being generous as most arn't standard, have exhausts, filters and more)
My 106 gti
141 bhp / 120 lb ft of torque
1/4 mile in 15.3.
That said, If I was on a motorway doing 80 mph, and a corsa XE was next to me and we both floored it - the XE would leave me behind as then it's torque would be more important.
At the end of the day, especially after getting 6 points for 1 excessive speeding offence - I do not plan to go speeding over 80 any time soon. So my 106 Gti is the perfect car to go 0-70 off some lights and leave most things behind
Paul J
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Twiggy
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Originally posted by Doug Corsa
Went out in twiggys, Nice car and pretty fast
Any idea of tourque figures?
What are the engine specs of the rallys?
Liking the arse out action on that round about
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Doug
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Liking the arse out action on that round about
Yeah andwhen the car went sideways
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