Sooty
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Originally posted by VXR
VXR does hold its own against 300bhp 4WD cars. Transmisson loss on the road at speed holds a major part. Especially a stage 2 jobbie..
sorry, and this has nothing to do with the fact i think your a idiot, but thats complete horseshit 
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Sooty
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What bhp is a VXR vectra?
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Sooty
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but 2WD tho?
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by Carl
They are on about the vectra, not too sure but since you have one are you refering to the astra? Just an observation.
Ahhhh right, in which case, yeah a scooby and Evo would rape it. Its too big a car to throw around easily. 
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Carl
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Originally posted by muppetsport
carl - itsd the vxr vectra that this post is about
Yeah i know, but daimo just stated VXR so thought he might have assumed that we were discussing the astra.
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Daimo B
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sorry, and this has nothing to do with the fact i think your a idiot, but thats complete horseshit
Its that why muppetsport agrees? You have your opinion, i have mine
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Ojc
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SR Nova is the fastest thing avaliable to mankind, especially in 4th gear 
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Dr Pepper
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Whats the point in you pigs getting all these top of the range performance cars--
You never attend any crime scenes any more do you? You dont need a 150mph pig wagon to hide behind with a speed gun... whats wrong with a good old transit.
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Sooty
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Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by Sooty
sorry, and this has nothing to do with the fact i think your a idiot, but thats complete horseshit
Its that why muppetsport agrees? You have your opinion, i have mine
Because your comparing a reasonably quick large family saloon to a 4WD high performance rallycar
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Sooty
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which impreza road car are you talking about, because the king is referring to 300bhp
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Daimo B
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Because your comparing a reasonably quick large family saloon to a 4WD high performance rallycar
If you read i actually wasn't.
Damn you bite quick
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i do believe the police should get the vxr van (movano??) i know they dont produce it but imgine a turbo'd meat wagon
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Sooty
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yes because 300bhp and 4WD is tame <alig>OBVIOUSLY<alig>
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Carl
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daimo's post was regarding the mariva VXR.
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Carl
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Originally posted by Sooty
yes because 300bhp and 4WD is tame <alig>OBVIOUSLY<alig>
Rally cars arn't just 4wd and 300bhp though, there is a bit more to it that that.
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by Carl
daimo's post was regarding the mariva VXR.
Small block power styleeeee (in a breadvan too).
Skylines beware of the Merivia with the mums on bored.
[Edited on 22-06-2006 by VXR]
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Sooty
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Originally posted by muppetsport
still, a 300bhp sti imprezza isnt the same as the rally car at all though. similar power maybe
talk to me about the fundamental differences.... yes weight being one, but what else
Sorry but a Vectra VXR is not in the same league as an Impreza with anything like that power.... FFS wheres loafofbrett
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Sooty
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Originally posted by Sooty
yes because 300bhp and 4WD is tame <alig>OBVIOUSLY<alig>
Rally cars arn't just 4wd and 300bhp though, there is a bit more to it that that.
Yes, but an impreza is based upon one...
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by VXR
VXR done Nurburg in around 7 min 30 sec
you are a funny fucker if you are talking about nordschleife, the Carrera GT got 7:32.44 minutes
jog on
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SetH
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Originally posted by muppetsport
so from the factory, perhaps they understeer enough to allow a vectra maybe with a better suspension set up on it from the factory to keep up with one which is being driven by someone who cant drive to well?
Not really, just means you need a driver who is competent enough to deal with the understeer. I dont find it a problem, im just always wary of it. In the 2 106 rallyes i have owned was very wary of the lift off oversteer, even though it got me badly once. A car with under/over steer characteristics doesnt necessarily stop it from being a great handling car imo if the driver is competent.
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Carl
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Originally posted by Sooty
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Originally posted by Carl
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Originally posted by Sooty
yes because 300bhp and 4WD is tame <alig>OBVIOUSLY<alig>
Rally cars arn't just 4wd and 300bhp though, there is a bit more to it that that.
Yes, but an impreza is based upon one...
true. Whereas the vectra is only based on transporting nob ends like vibro around with his camera stuff and a couple of wank mags, comfortably. 
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by muppetsport
suspension is completely different, the rally car uses a wider bodyshell (or the older imprezzas did, like the 22b) the gearbox and prop and diff are all completely different. the engine also makes similar power but it will develop its power lower down the rev range than the road car. loads of things differ
rally car produces much much more torque than the road car too
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by VXR
VXR done Nurburg in around 7 min 30 sec
you are a funny fucker if you are talking about nordschleife, the Carrera GT got 7:32.44 minutes
jog on
Sorry, typo, meant 8 min 30 secs od...
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Sooty
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Originally posted by Carl
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Originally posted by Sooty
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Originally posted by Carl
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Originally posted by Sooty
yes because 300bhp and 4WD is tame <alig>OBVIOUSLY<alig>
Rally cars arn't just 4wd and 300bhp though, there is a bit more to it that that.
Yes, but an impreza is based upon one...
true. Whereas the vectra is only based on transporting nob ends like vibro around with his camera stuff and a couple of wank mags, comfortably.
has vibrio got a vectra now what happened to the GT
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