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Daimo B
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6th Dec 07 at 11:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Videos are just stupidly crazy. The boy can ride, and very good at wheelies

Totally off subject, Cam, u'll like this vid.....

Brand new GSXR1000 Vs girly SV650S. 2.5 times the power, and u'll know the GSXR, look out for the missile......

Great vid, can't stop watching it over and over.. I always like the underdog....

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Doh.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6bULT4Jbgo
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how are they useless they do have throttles same as cars and you do get to control it too and they can go round corners besides i am only talking 6 psi
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Cars = 2ft contact patch....

A Corsa 1.6 16v running 6psi will spin up the front wheels.

A bike contact patch is the size of the palm on your hand.... Even less when cranked over. A sudden surge in power will make it a nightmare round bends.

Go for it dude, your bike, your cash, but seriously, i'd look WELL into it before doing it. Its nothing like a car, and 1 mistake could cost your life. I know i wouldn't if i had a little un..... (but thats me )

Why do you think most people never turbo them, or that bikes arn't turbocharged in motor racing (any class of bike at all).

Also, on turbocharged bikes (just view youtube), you cannot keep the front wheel down when it comes on boost.
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6th Dec 07 at 12:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

cant watch the vids at work daimo, will have a look when im home.

I think a turbo'd bike would be scary lol
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6th Dec 07 at 12:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

done loads in the states and bike tyres are much better equipt than car tyres also who tunes the fuelling to suit determains power spikes
daimo do you ride bikes (just askin not lookin to start bitchin )

[Edited on 06-12-2007 by starkie]
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USA = Straight roads = Easy.

Yes, i've ridden on the road for 8 years, been riding since i was 6, and ride my bike every single day. I've done 10,500 miles since march this year.

So yeah, i ride. Was brought up around bikes. Old mans an ex racer, spent my youth at racetracks all weekend instead of playing.
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just thought i'd ask as there are a few know it alls on here lol.
quite a few folk on gsxr.com have done it and use them on the track and road etc and been saying that lowish boost i.e 6psi and it can be perfectly driveable as long as your smooth and have the sense to take time to learn it same as every other bike
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whether safe or not they would be scary fast like lol.

are you actually gona do it Starkie? how much you expecting it all to cost?

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Yeah, but most of them will be in the states where everything is totally different. The roads are straight, its mostly dry, the roads are better quality, no junctions or hedges for stuff to jump out on you etc.....

Not telling you what to do. Just saying why I wouldn't do it.
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will give it a try as have already got the plenum for it (most important bit ) shouldnt cost too much tbh as will fabricate most of it myself and at 6psi all engine internals stay standard so can change back if i want
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Well thats a good thing at least. And esp if you've got the parts already. Guess its worth trying.

I still wouldn't though. Just go get myself something silly cc wise or a busa or something. 186mph "agreed limiter" is still plenty enough methinks, and still usable power all the way up the rev range...

But i like corners, so wouldn't have one ot those either
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last thing, promise lol

can someone help me list everything I'm goni need so I can sort an order to buy them and price everything.
add to the list with anything else

engine
f28
loom
conversion kit
brakes (lmf 300mm)
suspension (undecided)
gear linkage (regal short linkage)
4-2-1
exhaust (undecided)

cant think of anything else? :S
whats the story with fuel lines etc, do they need changed (fuel tank also??)
also id like to get uprated bushes, where can i get them and what bushes can be uprated?
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That on an XE?

DOn't fir the F28, really, it makes it so heavy and the XE hasn't got the power to use it. Pete put a 6sd in C3RSA, and its was DOG slow. Stick with the F20, or if you can go the F16 route.

Manifold, funds allowing go for it, but personnally, i'd rather save teh cash on that and the 300mm, and go for some nice 4 pots up front. Makes the front end and brakes so much better, inspires a lot more confidence.

Fuel lines will disconnect of the small block and connect onto the fuel rail on the XE ok. Even i've done that one myself So must be easy.

Exhaust, go BTCC stlyeeeee 2.5" straight through to rear can, then small downward facing tailpipe coming out.
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daimo please can you unblock my u2u's i want to message you something thanks
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im planning a LET Daimo. I'm assuming an F28 would be fine for this.

what do you mean about the manifold? dont buy a 4-2-1 and put it towards 4pots?
how much would a good 4pot setup be? disks, pads and calipers.

not sure what exhaust is going on yet but i like the look of a 3inch backbox.
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Steve please dont spam my threads. thanks

[Edited on 07-12-2007 by TheCam]
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quote:
Originally posted by TheCam
im planning a LET Daimo. I'm assuming an F28 would be fine for this.

what do you mean about the manifold? dont buy a 4-2-1 and put it towards 4pots?
how much would a good 4pot setup be? disks, pads and calipers.

not sure what exhaust is going on yet but i like the look of a 3inch backbox.


Apologise, yeah go for the F28 then.
Won't need a 4-2-1 manifold as its a turbo. Manifold goes into the turbo, then its 1 pipe out into the exhaust.

If its a LET, i really really REALLY would advise the 4 pots. Donnas V6 284mm setup really feels scarey, 1 of the few reasons i won't let her drive it at the moment They just arn't good enough.

A good 4 pot setup should cost between £600-£1200, or how big your wallet is.

Theres a few out there.

Bremsport (need 17"s)
Reylands (needs 16"s)
Hi-Spec (although i wouldn't personnally, they are the budget 4 pot option)
Brembo, (pricey, but very good kit).

Theres a few more as well, might be worth having a nose around the VX sites asking whats best.

Also, with a LET, you really want the 2.5" system. Donnas is a straight thru 2.5" system into the rear can. Its sounds f-ing awesome from behined, but on long motorways it can get a bit tedious. So possibly look at a center box too to keep it quieter if your old like us

Donnas roaaaarrrrrr.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Jeg7y8h2zPk
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consider a decent aftermarket downpipe also
Daimo B
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Downpipe on the standard LET is fine until you start to really tune it, in which case your going for a new turbo and larger exhaust anyway.
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7th Dec 07 at 13:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my wallet aint big but I'm wanting the best of stuff so I'll be saving for each part indivudual.

when I mentioned the exhaust I didnt mean a 3inch bore on all the exhaust just a 3 inch outward rolled tip. I think I will get a centre section as I used to hate my XE on the motorway couldnt hear a thing lol.

I wont be putting 17's on it thats for sure so thats the bremsports out the window. I may stretch to 16s. any idea what size the disks are on these 4 pot set ups?

also why would a down pipe make so much difference?

have i missed anything off my list?

Cheers for the advice ppl
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quote:
Originally posted by TheCam
also why would a down pipe make so much difference?




turbo is spooled by exhaust gas, the quicker you can get the exhaust gases through in theory the faster the turbo will spin, i know it doesnt fully work that way

[Edited on 07-12-2007 by Steve]
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Think the Reylands are 300mm. They are about £700 though.

NEw downpipe won't make any noticable difference. Needs some serious gasses coming through to need a new one really. Save that cash and spunk it on Phase2 or Evo5 upgrade. 250-280bhp and similar torque.
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just priced up the conversion kit and its £695
comes with:
engine and gear box mounts
shafts
hubs
part to block of transfer box on f28
induction kit

still need to buy:
inner and outer cv joints and boots.
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daimo whats involved in phase2 or evo5 upgrade?

can you keep pas with a let?
Fro
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I think you would only need the inner CV's if you run 1.6 corsa 22 spline shafts.

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