LeeM
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people with a basic understanding of physics know the plane takes off.
idiots think it wont
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Cosmo
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quote: Originally posted by stan_the_man
Hold on, which way is the conveyor going in relation to the plane?
I may have misunderstood the idea . . .
Doesnt matter which was it is going, but in this case it is going the opposite direction to the plane.
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DizzyRebel
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which way*
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Cosmo
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I got which right.
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Rickavo
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quote: Originally posted by lee_wee
people with a basic understanding of physics know the plane takes off.
idiots think it wont
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Planty02
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The plane would be stationary in relation to the air around and therefore produce no lift
[Edited on 02-11-2009 by Planty02]
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John
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People who don't get it because of a reason other than not understanding that plane wheels aren't driven should be gassed.
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Planty02
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It makes no difference how the wheels are driven. The fact is that if they are on a conveyor belt, travelling at the same speed in the opposite direction than the plane would be stationary
[Edited on 02-11-2009 by Planty02]
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ed
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Are people deliberately saying that it will remain stationary for real, or is it some stupid internet joke I don't get?
I mean, it's not exactly a difficult concept to grasp.
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John
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quote: Originally posted by Planty02
It makes no difference how the wheels are driven. The fact is that if they are on a conveyor belt, travelling at the same speed in the opposite direction than the plane would be stationary
[Edited on 02-11-2009 by Planty02]
It makes a massive difference how the wheels are driven, that's the only half decent excuse there is for not getting it.
When you work out that they freewheel it's an easy concept.
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Planty02
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hang on.....Is the belt matching the speed of the plane constantly? or is the plane travelling faster than the belt?
[Edited on 02-11-2009 by Planty02]
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JonnyJ
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It doesn't matter.
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ed
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The belt could be going a 10 times the speed of the aircraft, and so long as the friction generated between the wheels and the aircraft does not exceed the amount of thrust produced by the propulsion system then there will be a dis-equilibrium of forces thus the aircraft will be able to accelerate.
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stan_the_man
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After watching the video, i get it now.
Can i apply for my vasectomy to be undone now?
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ed
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Cancel the appointment
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J da Silva
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I thought of a good way to imagine it Planty, in order to give you a better image of what goes on....
Imagine the plane above the conveyor belt, the belt is moving towards to the arse of the plane, the plane thrusts forward in order to lift off against the, that's all simple to understand, what is confusing people is, they think the wheels of the plane play a part in the whole thing, they don't, they just turn around a little bit, so imagine the same again but the wheels are invisible and you can't see them.
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Cosmo
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the only reason a plane has wheels is to reduce the friction between it and the runway. If a plane could thrust hard enough then in theory it could take off with the whole bottom of the plane sitting on the floor.
So in other words, the wheels are useless in making it take off other than reducing friction.
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ed
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Sea planes cannot take off going against the tide or against the current on a river. They used to be able to until it was realised that the plane on a conveyor belt couldn't take off.
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J da Silva
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Yeah, and a smooth landing too.
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Cosmo
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quote: Originally posted by J da Silva
Yeah, and a smooth landing too.
TBH on some of the flights I have been on I think they do fuck all
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ed
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That's the problem with flying in private jets, the pilots don't get as much practice as a Ryanair 20 minute turnover driver does.
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J da Silva
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That's maybe because the dirty scousers pinched the wheels huh?
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Cosmo
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quote: Originally posted by ed
That's the problem with flying in private jets, the pilots don't get as much practice as a Ryanair 20 minute turnover driver does.
Meh, if the pilot makes me spill my Martini then he is never seen again.
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J da Silva
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I just chuck the pilot an extra bar of gold to make it a nice landing, what's a bar of gold between me and Jeeves?
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ed
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