Steve
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No,
They only pay it back if they earn over X amount, and part of it is govt. subsidised aswell so its no better then benefits scroungers
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Steve
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If they want to go out boozing, fine, but they should find a part time job like i did to fund it, theres no reason not to do this, even two evenings a week would cover the nights out. But they wont do this because it means they cannot bum around and be lazy
They want everything on a plate handed to them because they think they are the most important people in the country, hence why they have a shock when they leave uni and find themselve unable to find employment
[Edited on 09-01-2011 by Steve]
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sand-eel
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Yeah but the "x amount" is quite low so unless they are utter shit at life, they will make the yearly wage theshold.
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Steve
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not really i know quite a few people who dont work at all that have left uni.
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A1EX
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One day some of them might be the most important people in the country 
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sand-eel
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I went to uni, got no burseries, grants, loans, travel expenses and had a part-time job, I throw in this information to make me feel like a big man!
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LeeM
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
not really i know quite a few people who dont work at all that have left uni.
so your issue is with lazy people in general, its just easier for you to take it out on students
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Steve
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yep the ones going to do a proper course which i have no issue with at all, from what i have seen these are also the people that generally dont piss around all the time spending there money on nights out and pics for facebook.
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sand-eel
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Originally posted by Steve
not really i know quite a few people who dont work at all that have left uni.
But surely they still have 50 years left of life to pay it?
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Steve
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Originally posted by LeeM
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Originally posted by Steve
not really i know quite a few people who dont work at all that have left uni.
so your issue is with lazy people in general, its just easier for you to take it out on students
yes i suppose you could say that, however the majority of them are students  well they are in my circles anyway
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antnee
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I will put this out there,
In my flat, there is 6 of us, 4 have jobs, 1 guy is living off savings and I have been looking for work.
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antnee
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by LeeM
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Originally posted by Steve
not really i know quite a few people who dont work at all that have left uni.
so your issue is with lazy people in general, its just easier for you to take it out on students
yes i suppose you could say that, however the majority of them are students well they are in my circles anyway
What about all the people on benifits?
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antnee
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My loan has just come through, big session tomorrow night!! (tbh Im drinking now!)
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noshua
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Originally posted by Steve
its meant to pay for tuition and/or living expenses!
There's two loans you can take out - tuition and maintenance. The latter being to live on.
What does it matter if someone spends their money on alcohol? It's no different to them spending it on fags or more expensive food.
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antnee
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I started drinking about 10mins ago 
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Neo
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tbh
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I'll have my letter soon so I'll be able to open it. Not after loads just fancy that grand so I don't have to save up for the holiday goin Ibiza so need lots of spends
from
http://c20xe.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=588831
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LeeM
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Haha it's ok, I'm Doing a proper course so I'm ok!
Anyway, that's an overdraft not a loan. Though I'll probably pay my overdraft back with part of my loan, spend that on beer and then go back into my overdraft. So technically none of my loan will go on beer 
[Edited on 12-01-2011 by LeeM]
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ed
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A grand a term isn't a lot to live off of, if you spunk it all before you even start then you're going to be in a bit of trouble.
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DaveyLC
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So....stay with me here......
You were in a situation where your accommodation was covered and fee's were not an issue. This is the same case for the students that get loans. It is to cover their accommodation and fee's.
Are you telling me that you did not go out on the piss at all while you were enrolled at the universitys?
Don't get me wrong. I fucking hate students now. I mean I really do. More than I can express here. But you cannot hate them for doing what everyone else does at that age. They will pay their loan back so it is no different to someone taking cash out of their overdraft in order to go into town for a few drinks.
If you don't like the way the loans are funded then that is an issue to rant to the government about. Not to slate the students for.
I'm not knocking the people who "NEED" the money but lets be fair here if they can afford to "PISS their loans away" they could afford to not have the loan in the first place! There are far to many people who think higher education is just about the social life, they all get a shock when they wake up and join the real world.
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LeeM
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Originally posted by ed
A grand a term isn't a lot to live off of, if you spunk it all before you even start then you're going to be in a bit of trouble.
I've got a decent enough job to live off, just. Loans will make me comfortable again, overdraft pats for holiday
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Fonz
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i am no ones camp, i would like to think my opinion is neutral and as such can see both points of view.
uni life is the first chance for most to do what they hell they like and sod the consequences at a time when these young adults want exactly that, independance and freedom
at the same time big adult responsibilities are set upon in terms of the reason they are at uni = for an education/degree.
if a student drinks/smokes/shags their way through uni they are slated for not taking uni seriously and wasting their loans
if however they study hard, avoid the distractions of uni life they could be accused of missing out on the "uni experience"
damned if they do and damned if they dont!
although i agree with T Blair's "education education education" speech it did nothing to improve standards, facilities or intellegence of the british education system/student, grades and pass % keeps going up, yet industry experts say exams are easier and graduates have little knowledge or skills.
the system only provided a ready made one way route to uni only the basis that more students going to uni is a good thing for the country......
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RichR
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Whole UK Education System is flawed anyway TBH, right from grass roots to PHD
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Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by Fonz
i am no ones camp, i would like to think my opinion is neutral and as such can see both points of view.
uni life is the first chance for most to do what they hell they like and sod the consequences at a time when these young adults want exactly that, independance and freedom
at the same time big adult responsibilities are set upon in terms of the reason they are at uni = for an education/degree.
if a student drinks/smokes/shags their way through uni they are slated for not taking uni seriously and wasting their loans
if however they study hard, avoid the distractions of uni life they could be accused of missing out on the "uni experience"
damned if they do and damned if they dont!
although i agree with T Blair's "education education education" speech it did nothing to improve standards, facilities or intellegence of the british education system/student, grades and pass % keeps going up, yet industry experts say exams are easier and graduates have little knowledge or skills.
the system only provided a ready made one way route to uni only the basis that more students going to uni is a good thing for the country......
its easy to do both.
study hard, and get a p/t job to cover "the uni experience"
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ed
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Do you still live with your mum and dad?
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Steve
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what in gods name has that got to do with anything
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