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DaveyLC
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15th Feb 12 at 16:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Brett
Although this is digressing onto another topic, quitting smoking isn't necessarily easy for another just because it was for you. All down to circumstance.


You are a pandering, ball-less, nanny-ing liberal.. Let people take responsibility for their actions stop making excuses for them.. No body MADE him start smoking.
spencer88
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Excuse my ignorance but isn't Level 2 NVQ like writing your name?
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Of course they did davey. Thats why hes in this mess, someone else made all the wrong decisions for him
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Excuse my ignorance but isn't Level 2 NVQ like writing your name?


Depends what in, but most monkeys can do it.

Although ive seen people fail
spencer88
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Originally posted by spencer88
Excuse my ignorance but isn't Level 2 NVQ like writing your name?


Depends what in, but most monkeys can do it.

Although ive seen people fail


Just looked on Direct.gov and NVQ2 is equivalent to GCSE level.

I can see why people will not give jobs to those with just a level 2 to be fair.
Ben J
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quote:
Originally posted by John
When you say you trained at college as an electrician and plumber what exactly did you do?


NVQ at a guess. Means nothing in the real world unfortunatly


Thats a bullshit statement.

NVQ's are nationally recognised. Its an on the job qual so actually shows you can do the job.
Ben J
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Excuse my ignorance but isn't Level 2 NVQ like writing your name?


No.

Its the equivalent of 5 A-C grade GCSE's.

Level 3 is equiv of 2 A levels.



[Edited on 15-02-2012 by Ben J]
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Originally posted by John
When you say you trained at college as an electrician and plumber what exactly did you do?


NVQ at a guess. Means nothing in the real world unfortunatly


Thats a bullshit statement.

NVQ's are nationally recognised. Its an on the job qual so actually shows you can do the job.


Was refering to lvl2, which can be done at college
Eddx14xe
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Originally posted by spencer88
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Originally posted by Gary
quote:
Originally posted by spencer88
Excuse my ignorance but isn't Level 2 NVQ like writing your name?


Depends what in, but most monkeys can do it.

Although ive seen people fail


Just looked on Direct.gov and NVQ2 is equivalent to GCSE level.

I can see why people will not give jobs to those with just a level 2 to be fair.




So how exactly do you expect people to progress?
spencer88
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Originally posted by spencer88
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Originally posted by Gary
quote:
Originally posted by spencer88
Excuse my ignorance but isn't Level 2 NVQ like writing your name?


Depends what in, but most monkeys can do it.

Although ive seen people fail


Just looked on Direct.gov and NVQ2 is equivalent to GCSE level.

I can see why people will not give jobs to those with just a level 2 to be fair.




So how exactly do you expect people to progress?


Train further or take an apprenticeship.

Work for a company for free to get trained?
John
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I'm not sure where this misconception started that you can go to college then go out and get a job as a plumber or an electrician?

Did someone tell you that was the case?

The only way (in 99% of cases because I'm sure I'll be told otherwise) is to do these as an apprenticeship.

It's never been the case you can go to college for a year then get the same job as a guy who's been slaving away on below minimum wage for 4 years.
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Getting heavy in here. I'm rage quitting
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Sorry forgot teh rage...
LeeM
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i dont work atm but i bet i can get a job within a week.
Ryan
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It's the governments fault, and it was the Labour cunts that let it get so seriously out of hand.

It will never change now, benefits are a lifestyle choice; as soon as any government (and it would only be the conservatives) try to drastically change the system and actually make it fair to the hard working taxpayers amongst us, they will be voted out in favour of cunty Labour.

I cannot imagine how much worse it would be under the Liberals, they seriously have no idea.
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Who said anything about getting a job straight away? I've been talking about apprenticeships since my first post.
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Originally posted by spencer88
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Originally posted by Gary
quote:
Originally posted by spencer88
Excuse my ignorance but isn't Level 2 NVQ like writing your name?


Depends what in, but most monkeys can do it.

Although ive seen people fail


Just looked on Direct.gov and NVQ2 is equivalent to GCSE level.

I can see why people will not give jobs to those with just a level 2 to be fair.



Level 2 is equivalent of 5 A-C grade GCSE's.

Level 3 is equiv of 2 A levels.


Both L2 and L3 need a good amount of work and application. You can't really "fail" though as such unless you give up.



[Edited on 15-02-2012 by Ben J]
John
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Why did you go to college to do it at all though? It was a waste of however many years.
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You are a pandering, ball-less, nanny-ing liberal.. Let people take responsibility for their actions stop making excuses for them.. No body MADE him start smoking.

Says the parasite. I'm not making excuses for anyone, as I've said several times I can see both sides of the fence.
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There wasn't and still isn't any apprenticeships available around here. My friend got one but was then made redundant after a few months. Out of everyone I went college with, afaik only two have found an apprenticeship.
Whittie
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That javelin is fucking huge.
Ryan
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15th Feb 12 at 17:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
It makes me laugh when people say "ive been applying for plumbing apprenticeships for 4 years and havent got one "

Do you not think its time to try something else and actually start your life? Are you still going to be saying that at 50? Living in your parents house on the dole?

I want to be a pilot but i cant fly planes boo fucking hoo.
Ben J
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Nothing wrong with having a goal etc, but i'd definatley think about getting another job in the meantime whilst waiting for an apprenticeship.
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So people living on the dole get shit, now I am for saying there are no apprenticeships about

Can't win these days.

[Edited on 15-02-2012 by Eddx14xe]
Ryan
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So people living on the role get shit, now I am for saying there are no apprenticeships about

Can't win these days.


My comment wasnt aimed at anyone, just hear it all the time.

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