Dave
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I disagree on the dress/act thing certainly. I don't think someone acting overly flirty in a bar or wearing revealing clothes is putting herself at risk of being raped.
I do think if you were to invite someone back to your house at the end of a night out though you are leading them to believe there is going to be some kind of sexual activity. Of course I'm not saying if she changes her mind she deserves to be raped, but she did have the option not to put herself in that situation.
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JonnyJ
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Its still in the guys control though. He can choose to rape or not. She cannot choose not to be raped.
So at the end of the day, no matter what the precursor was for 2 people ending up in that situation, its not the victims fault.
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Steve
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I dont think people are seeing the point.
Noones is trying to say its the victims fault.
Going back to the car unlocked example, if you leave your car unlocked and it gets broken into its not the victims fault, but they could have taken measures to help prevent it, same as you could say its still in the thiefs control not to break into the car it doesnt work like that, with any crime
[Edited on 05-03-2012 by Steve]
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smcGSI16V
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quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ
Its still in the guys control though. He can choose to rape or not. She cannot choose not to be raped.
Exactly.
Choice!
Steve, I think you still live in the dark ages abit.
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Steve
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These arent rational people though, most likely people that dont care to read the appeals, nor have an ounce of moral decency or care about what they are doing.
These types of people have and always will exist. Nothing you can do about that.
Therefore being wise and a bit savvy is definately the safer and more sensible option rather then living under the "i shouldnt have to therefore il do what the fuck i want" attitude.
You shouldnt have to lock up your house but you still do
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Steve
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Are you saying that people that lock up there houses are living in the dark ages?
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smcGSI16V
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To the point where all women wear a burqa in public so they dont get raped?
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Steve
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No thats daft lol, to the point where they just apply to common sense in certain situations.
You cant go too far as you take the enjoyment out of anything then whats the point in that, but certain things like some of the aforementioned examples I gave, certainly go someway to minimizing risk
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Sunz
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I think I agree with Steve 
He's just saying, why put yourself in a position where you're making it easier for the criminal, you can do things to help so you are less likey to be a victim.
He's not saying if you dress a certain way you deserve to be raped, just that dressing in a certain way could attracted the wrong kind of attention and the same if your too drunk to stand, be responsible and know the risk.
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pow
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Winds me up something cronic this, on many different levels.
The main one is that advert fucks me off as it stereotypical of men 'on the bed woman and give me sex'. FFS not all men are like that.
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All Torque
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Aaaaaand here we go.....
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Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by All Torque
Aaaaaand here we go.....
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pow
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What?
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silvercorsabee
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quote:
Originally posted by smcGSI16V
quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ
Its still in the guys control though. He can choose to rape or not. She cannot choose not to be raped.
Exactly.
Choice!
Steve, I think you still live in the dark ages abit.
not really, im 18 and i agree with steve!
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Nath
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quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ
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Originally posted by Steve
i dont get rape, i mean if the girl doesnt want it she doesnt get wet and it would phsyically kill to try and force my cock inside a fanny that wasnt wet, would really put me off rape tbh
Please tell me you arent being serious here 
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Originally posted by All Torque
Aaaaaand here we go.....
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Kerry
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Originally posted by Shell
And Kerry I'm sorry,but I pray you never find yourself in that situation and have some girl say "she shouldn't have led him on".
I'm not saying rape is ok
I'm just saying I don't agree with the attitude that it's ok to lead someone on, especially if it's someone you don't know, and put yourself in a vulnerable situation!!! And if he doesn't like it then it's his problem.
Why would anyone want to do this in the first place?
And for the record. I have been in several situations, admittedly ones that I shouldn't of got myself in to either!!
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emicen
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Women's dress has far less to do with it than the general breakdown of the moral fabric of society. There's always been flesh on show at beaches since the 70s, its not like rape has suddenly moved from the seaside to the city.
Don't give a fuck if sound like CMD saying this, we live in a broken society. Its all about "I want it so I'm having it" and fuck the consequences.
As I type this, one of the adverts is on incidentally.
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Steve
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Is wanking over a girls pics on the net without her consent internet rape?
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emicen
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Is wanking over a girls pics on the net without her consent internet rape?
Although I think you're a platinum grade cunt, I genuinely hope you don't ever have someone close to you go through a rape. Even if that's the only way you'd actually realise just how obtuse some of your remarks are.
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Ojc
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Boy lives in his own world
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Rich H
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Originally posted by Lawrah
What?! You shouldn't really rape people regardless of what they are wearing.
A girl going out in a tiny mini skirt and a near non existent top with boobs hanging out is asking for a bit of raping tbh.
I believe that's called grabbing and only acceptable in the Gypsy fraternity. It's hardly acceptable that because a girl is dressed showing off more skin than another, then she must be clearly asking for somebody to try it on with her whether she wants it or not?!
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Steve
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Unbelievable that that comment has gone unquestioned, yet my throw away comment about wanking over pics, flippant or not, has nothing to do with actual rape gets berated.
And after having a lengthy sensible discussion with a host of valid points raised too. Did anyone bother reading that?
Jeremy Clarkson syndrome.
[Edited on 06-03-2012 by Steve]
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emicen
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Unbelievable that that comment has gone unquestioned, yet my throw away comment about wanking over pics, flippant or not, has nothing to do with actual rape gets berated.
And after having a lengthy sensible discussion with a host of valid points raised too. Did anyone bother reading that?
Jeremy Clarkson syndrome.
[Edited on 06-03-2012 by Steve]
Can't be arsed multiquoting so that one got picked. Sentiment stands.
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mon3y1
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lol at the guy who said suprise sex
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Eck
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Cannot believe there was actually a debate about whether rape is the guys fault or not 
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