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They've mainly been tap in type ones.
That one last night wasn't on target till it the defender though 
Loads of been massive deflections like that. The two last week certainly wouldnt of been goals unless they got the touch.
I cant remember the other 7 like
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Its got be some kind of record or close to being either way 
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Id like to know that record actually, as 10 must be right up there.
Saying that I expect Chavski hold it, as with Lampard in their team they are bound to of had about 20 OG in a season.
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Rafa is the wrong man as was proven last season. The squad has not progressed but has gone backwards since he took over.
Quoting this and passing it off as my own, better bait coming from a united fan
The thing is, Id of taken it seriously if he hadnt of said since he took over.
If you compare the squad he inherited and the one now its fairly clear its about 10000x better
Yep Liverpool have one decent striker who is always on the physio's table and a captain who has spent a lot of time there as well. They would be better off with 3 average strikers all capable of scoring than 1 great one who is always injured.
O and the squad he inherited won the champions league. The current one cannot even get out of the group stages
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Yep Liverpool have one decent striker who is always on the physio's table and a captain who has spent a lot of time there as well. They would be better off with 3 average strikers all capable of scoring than 1 great one who is always injured.
So who were these players who could all score in the squad Rafa inherited?
9 from Kuyt, 5 from Gerrard and Benayoun, 4 from Ngog.
Compare that to the next 4 after Rooney for United...Berb 8, Valencia 5, Fletcher 3, a few on 2.
Hardly any different there is it?
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Rafa needs to give Babel more of a chance imo.
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O and the squad he inherited won the champions league. The current one cannot even get out of the group stages
Yeah - the squad plus Alonso (scored 2nd goal in the final), Garcia (scored winning goals in quarter and semi finals) and Cisse.
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Rafa needs to give Babel more of a chance imo.
Id have agreed last season - but the guy has taken the piss tbh. If you watch full games and not just high lights, you can see he just doesnt bother trying at all.
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Compare that to the next 4 after Rooney for United...Berb 8, Valencia 5, Fletcher 3, a few on 2.
Hardly any different there is it?
You missed Owen on 7, Giggs on 4, Scholes on 4, Carrick on 4
Valencia has 6 too 
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Compare that to the next 4 after Rooney for United...Berb 8, Valencia 5, Fletcher 3, a few on 2.
Hardly any different there is it?
You missed Owen on 7, Giggs on 4, Scholes on 4, Carrick on 4
Valencia has 6 too
PL goals sorry. All the Liv were PL goals as well to be fair!
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oh, let you off!
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Kuyt 10, Benayoun 7, Gerrard 6, Ngog 6
In all comps.
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O and the squad he inherited won the champions league. The current one cannot even get out of the group stages
Yeah - the squad plus Alonso (scored 2nd goal in the final), Garcia (scored winning goals in quarter and semi finals) and Cisse.
And where are they all now?
Best playmaker you have ever had has gone as the waiter upset him, garcia was used iirc as a make weight in the torres deal and cisse well he was not the best but 100 times the player Ngog is.
Rafa is terrible in the transfer market, while ferguscum finds £10m players worthy or wearing the strip the waiter finds £10m-£20m shithouses.
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Rafa needs to give Babel more of a chance imo.
TBH if i was him i would risk Babel over Ngog at every match.
Neither should be in the position they are in though. The should be playing for Hull, Blackburn or Bolton.
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And where are they all now?
Best playmaker you have ever had has gone as the waiter upset him, garcia was used iirc as a make weight in the torres deal and cisse well he was not the best but 100 times the player Ngog is.
Rafa is terrible in the transfer market, while ferguscum finds £10m players worthy or wearing the strip the waiter finds £10m-£20m shithouses.
Granted about Alosno, he did piss him off, but he was always going to leave if Madrid came sniffing around with the players they bought last summer. Still turned a £10.5m signing in to a great player (proves your point wrong).
Garcia was a cheap signing used to get Torres, he wanted to leave as was homesick anyway (search back on Liverpool site and you'll find an open letter to fans he wrote when he left).
Cisse technically was Houlliers signing, just came when Rafa started. Two broken legs = end of any decent career for us.
And who are these shit houses he has signed between £10-20m? He hasnt made a huge amount of signings in this price bracket to be fair. Babel is certainly one. Keane is another (although he didnt decide to plash that much on him). Others include Masch, Johnson and Torres.
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Rafa is terrible in the transfer market, while ferguscum finds £10m players worthy or wearing the strip the waiter finds £10m-£20m shithouses.
Oh, and forgot to ask - who are these great players fergie has signed for that amount?
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Rafa is terrible in the transfer market, while ferguscum finds £10m players worthy or wearing the strip the waiter finds £10m-£20m shithouses.
Oh, and forgot to ask - who are these great players fergie has signed for that amount?
Ronaldo, Vidic, Evra to name three
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And where are they all now?
Best playmaker you have ever had has gone as the waiter upset him, garcia was used iirc as a make weight in the torres deal and cisse well he was not the best but 100 times the player Ngog is.
Rafa is terrible in the transfer market, while ferguscum finds £10m players worthy or wearing the strip the waiter finds £10m-£20m shithouses.
Granted about Alosno, he did piss him off, but he was always going to leave if Madrid came sniffing around with the players they bought last summer. Still turned a £10.5m signing in to a great player (proves your point wrong).
Garcia was a cheap signing used to get Torres, he wanted to leave as was homesick anyway (search back on Liverpool site and you'll find an open letter to fans he wrote when he left).
Cisse technically was Houlliers signing, just came when Rafa started. Two broken legs = end of any decent career for us.
And who are these shit houses he has signed between £10-20m? He hasnt made a huge amount of signings in this price bracket to be fair. Babel is certainly one. Keane is another (although he didnt decide to plash that much on him). Others include Masch, Johnson and Torres.
Babel, Keane, Aquilani all terrible.
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Rafa is terrible in the transfer market, while ferguscum finds £10m players worthy or wearing the strip the waiter finds £10m-£20m shithouses.
Oh, and forgot to ask - who are these great players fergie has signed for that amount?
Ronaldo, Vidic, Evra to name three
I agree, Vidic, Heinze, Evra, Ronaldo....
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And who are these shit houses he has signed between £10-20m? He hasnt made a huge amount of signings in this price bracket to be fair. Babel is certainly one. Keane is another (although he didnt decide to plash that much on him). Others include Masch, Johnson and Torres.
Come off it cosmo
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Rafa is terrible in the transfer market, while ferguscum finds £10m players worthy or wearing the strip the waiter finds £10m-£20m shithouses.
Oh, and forgot to ask - who are these great players fergie has signed for that amount?
Ronaldo, Vidic, Evra to name three
3 of those were less than £10m (Vidic and Evra). If we're including those then Reina and Agger could be included, even Kuyt at £7m.
Ronaldo is the main one I can think of, which was obviously a great signing. Id hardly class him as some master of signing £10m players though as it appears is being made out
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And who are these shit houses he has signed between £10-20m? He hasnt made a huge amount of signings in this price bracket to be fair. Babel is certainly one. Keane is another (although he didnt decide to plash that much on him). Others include Masch, Johnson and Torres.
Come off it cosmo
Apologies, didnt read that correctly.
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I agree, Vidic, Heinze, Evra, Ronaldo....
Nah, heinze was massively over-rated, far too many rash decisions and mistakes
Which is highlighted now by the fact he plays for marsaille
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Rafa is terrible in the transfer market, while ferguscum finds £10m players worthy or wearing the strip the waiter finds £10m-£20m shithouses.
Oh, and forgot to ask - who are these great players fergie has signed for that amount?
Ronaldo, Vidic, Evra to name three
I agree, Vidic, Heinze, Evra, Ronaldo....
3 of those were less than £10m.
If you want between 10-20m then include Nani, Tosic, Hargreaves, Anderson, Valencia.
Christ if you want to expand the bracket up a bit then Veron and Berbatov.
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Dossena, Bellamy, Pennant, Lucas, Sissoko
I can only think of 3 players who would when fit make it into any of the top 4's starting 11.
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