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baza31
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its fuck all of a bump that, i think astras have an impact leg on end of chassis leg that joints front lower crossmember, these are design to take the impact without effecting the chassis
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quote:
Originally posted by John


http://www.autoblog.com/2010/05/06/video-mythbusters-put-the-science-of-crashing-cars-to-the-test/


thats really interesting
i suppose when you think about it, the two cars cancel out against each other so each car is like a solid object

fook being in that daewoo that hit a wall at 100mph though

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the only way i can see that theory being true is if both cars are travelling the exact same speed and in some weird way it has a cancelling effect, if one is going faster then the other then of course it will make the overall impact greater
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good point steve, they need to do one at 30mph and one at 70mph.

Were you wearing a seatbelt? as thats some injuries to have from 30mph, i have seen alot of crashes at alot higher speeds with no injuries apart from the odd cut from broken glass.
not saying you havent got the injuries though

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quote:
Originally posted by Tomnova16
good point steve, they need to do one at 30mph and one at 70mph.

Were you wearing a seatbelt? as thats some injuries to have from 30mph, i have seen alot of crashes at alot higher speeds with no injuries apart from the odd cut from broken glass.
not saying you havent got the injuries though


Tbf if she had a helmet, neck protection and 6 point harness she would still have massive issues!
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quote:
Originally posted by VrsTurbo
quote:
Originally posted by Tomnova16
good point steve, they need to do one at 30mph and one at 70mph.

Were you wearing a seatbelt? as thats some injuries to have from 30mph, i have seen alot of crashes at alot higher speeds with no injuries apart from the odd cut from broken glass.
not saying you havent got the injuries though


Tbf if she had a helmet, neck protection and 6 point harness she would still have massive issues!
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Originally posted by chloe16v
courtesy car has arived, any guesses as to what it is?
Shame you wont be able to drive it due to all your injuries!
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good point, with a neck injury you wont be able to look at junctions

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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
the only way i can see that theory being true is if both cars are travelling the exact same speed and in some weird way it has a cancelling effect, if one is going faster then the other then of course it will make the overall impact greater


No it won't.

It won't have exactly the same effect but it won't work the way you are thinking.
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so if a car going 20mph hits a car going 120mph, then the impact effect on the 20mph car will be no greater then it just hitting a brick wall at 20mph
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i think it only works on matched speeds. if your going around the same speed and you hit head on they counter act each other. But if one is going faster its split
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I don't care for what is happening in this thread, what I do care about is the fact that your ignorance knows absolutely no bounds and you have ignored me all morning you fucking welk.
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still not convinced even with the equal speeds

i can appreciate it may not be double eg two 30mphs = a 60mph collision, but im not conviced there is no extra effect whatsoever

[Edited on 29-09-2010 by Steve]
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Stop acting stupid Steve.
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Ignore him Hammer, the boy hasn't a clue about anything.

Hes one of these intelligent people that haven't got any real world skills or experience because he never leaves his computer desk.
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
still not convinced even with the equal speeds

i can appreciate it may not be double eg two 30mphs = a 60mph collision, but im not conviced there is no extra effect whatsoever


Were the videos with both the cars being exactly compareable and the identical g-force readings not enough

You should email them about different speeds, they'll do it in one of the revisit episodes.
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or astra
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nope, its a bit bigger than both of them
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no, its a vw passat 2.0 td
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you'll get a nice holiday of that im sure

If your that badly injured how are you going to drive

fucking piss take these perosnal injuries lark
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my astra had the same amount of damage as that, i only hit some one at 5mph at an island
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THE PLANE WON'T TAKE OFF!

Hope all parties involved are okay
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glad you are all ok

as for the impact argument

mythbusters did an experiment with a car into a wall at 30mph and 60mph and a head on collision both at 30mph

the head on damage was equivelant to 30mph into a wall

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