RichR
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at what age would it be 'ok' to date a 15year, 11 month and 2 week old? What's the cut off point. If a 16 year old was shagging her, it would still technically be a criminal act but noone would be shouting about it. So ethically speaking - what is the cut off point 20? 25?
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John
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Not their teacher is a good cut off point.
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RichR
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I agree but Hammer was saying if any 30 year old was sniffing around the 15year old living in his basement; so in general, what is the ethical cut off point between wrong and right?
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RichR
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and would it be as bad if it was a 30 year old female teacher and a 15 year, 11month and 2 week schoolboy?
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Hammer
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I have a 15 year old foster girl in the house, I'd take the claw end of a hammer to any 30 year old that went anywhere near her.
Anyone that thinks it is ok is a filthy deviant. End of story.
And if she was 16?
I'd still be fuming but it would be legal. So very little difference basically.
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John
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Didn't know she had been found 
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Hammer
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Originally posted by LiVe LeE
I agree but Hammer was saying if any 30 year old was sniffing around the 15year old living in his basement; so in general, what is the ethical cut off point between wrong and right?
I was saying nothing about ethics, I was telling you if a 30 year old went anywhere near the 15 year old 'living in my basement' I would be fuming.
I would not expect a flip flop wearing hippy to understand this, however, as a flip flop wearing hippy is exactly the type of mentally incorrect deviant that would be chasing minors.
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RichR
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I'm asking what age would you not be angry about?
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Hammer
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In general terms? It is impossible to pluck a number from thin air.
There are 16 year olds that have pink wallpaper and teddies on their bed and there's 16 year olds that have been in pubs for 2 years pissed, normally with their mums who had them when they were 14.
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RichR
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but is that not the point. Ethically, is it wrong? Not in this case, he was her teacher and in a position of trust but is it wrong, in general terms for a 20/25/30 years old to be shagging a girl who is 2 weeks off being 16
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Hammer
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A 30 year old shagging a 16 year old is wrong. In my opinion.
In fact the thought turns my stomach.
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adiohead
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Originally posted by LiVe LeE
in general terms for a 20/25/30 years old to be shagging a girl who is 2 weeks off being 16
They could just wait for 2 weeks, then "Happy Birthday".
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Steve
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happy sausage
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adiohead
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Originally posted by Steve
happy sausage
happy chipolata 
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Ben G
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happy micro penis
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adiohead
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F' 
spit + keyboard = spit/cum covered keyboard
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Ian
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Was reading up on the laws of this actually, apparently its illegal for a teacher to date a student, regardless of age. So even if a teacher was 22 and a student was 18 thats illegal, i wonder though if that just applies to if they are their teacher in the same school, because if it means any school thats ridiculous 
That's incorrect - Sexual Offences Act 2003 makes it illegal to have sexual relations with a person under your supervision if they are under 18 or over 18 in the case of a vulnerable adult.
In your example of a 22yo teacher and an 18yo student there would be no offence.
The school position may be more stringent than law and most will forbid it somewhere in their own policies.
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Ian
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yeah but across different schools aswell? must be hard to find a girl if youre a young teacher
It's only within the same school
Because that's the only way you could enforce the schools' own policies, it has no basis in law once the SOA is exhausted.
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Ian
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You are all missing the underlying motives from the Government on this.
Completely agree - big story in order to bring in more control - entirely plausible.
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Steve
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Whats your take on it? massive offence? or been blown out of proportion
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Y869 SRA
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Originally posted by AlexSXI
Grooming/Doing things to a child
Grooming/Doing things with a girl like Megan who has developed boobs, got sexual feelings etc
How can that be described as the same offence?
'Pedophile' is word with such variety. Yes its absolutely fucking disgusting to even think about somebody doing anything of the sort to a child, but when you see this Megan girl, boobs, good looking etc surely its only natural for some men to find her attractive?
I find it weird how punishments are virtually the same. I appreciate there has to be a law/age limit but they take no consideration into the 'victims' age.
He'll go on the sex offenders list and probably get sent down for the same duration whether it was a child or this girl. Just strange IMO as to how they are classed as the same offence with the same punishment.
Because legally, she is still a child.
Personally, I wouldn't call him a paedo. Pervert yes.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
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Originally posted by SetH
You are all missing the underlying motives from the Government on this.
Completely agree - big story in order to bring in more control - entirely plausible.
Thought crossed my mind
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Hammer
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There are no underlying government forces at work, take off your tin foil hats.
A 30 year old paedo was stoating about in France with his 15 year old pupil, it is big news despite what a few jumped up clowns on the internet think.
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Y869 SRA
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I can't help their would have been far less interest if it was a 15 year old lad and a 30 year old woman (teacher or not).
Probably not.
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Steve
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deffo a pervert not a peado
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