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Giz a go
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quote:
Originally posted by nik
quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B
Sorry, but most CTR owners think they own the road. THey are turning into BMW drivers.

CTRs are good fast cars, driven but boring middle aged people.


ok then, check out the CTR forum and ask the average age of driver - most are mid 20s - early 30s so I wouldn't say middle aged at all. The ATR is a middle aged owners car. I don't think any car owner will take the BMW wanker crown either


So people on that bored are mid twenties to early thirties? Yeah big deal. Does every CTR owner go on there? No. Probably coz the other 95% have kids and a mortgage and dont go on forums.
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Originally posted by Ian
I think the combination of normal aspiration and a good handling car make the Civic what it is. Perhaps the Astras are let down by poor power delivery and a lack of low down torque. I'm not sure how that comes through in 'real' driving situations as although the engine braking isn't as good for getting the ass out, the bite and turn-in grip is phenominal in mine if you get the turbo working hard enough.

As I say, I'd dearly love to drive one in anger as I know Astras are very good!



I thought astra turbos had a good spread of torque from 2000-5500rpm
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ctr = 196nm@ 5900rpm

astra = 250Nm (184lb.ft.) @ 1950rpm
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my punto 167lb ft @ 3500rpm
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
So people on that bored are mid twenties to early thirties? Yeah big deal. Does every CTR owner go on there? No. Probably coz the other 95% have kids and a mortgage and dont go on forums.


Highly unlikely as the CTR (as most people may not know) Only has 4 legal seats!! ie. NO KIDS Boot space is large but wud b no good 4 a family
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AN also only 4 seatbelts
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it's laso driven mainly by wankers to
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Astra Fiqures
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lmao at the 'accuracy' of that graph.
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its from opel you gayness
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http://media.opel.com/com/download/pdf/tdata/astra_dk_2.pdf
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did they use a ruler?
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yes. you get the idea though. thats the point
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Anyone got a real graph?
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that is the real graph you twonk. the car gives a flat torque curve
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thankyou vibro
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quote:
Originally posted by RobboSRi
Highly unlikely as the CTR (as most people may not know) Only has 4 legal seats!! ie. NO KIDS Boot space is large but wud b no good 4 a family



My Coupé has only 4 legal seats. I have a family and it does me fine. big boot too. Having 4 seats doesn't mean it can't be a family car!
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You don't have a family... your just going out with a bird that has kids, and you play away from home
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They are OUR kids, I have been with her for 4 years and I don't play away from home.
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well thats the impression you gave me
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he plays with other men
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Originally posted by vibrio
I play with other men


Ross please can we keep this to the matter at hand
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I am a model boyfriend and father.

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