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So what's the update atm?
Not much has happened since last night tbh, Our Tornado's hit a few targets in Libya performing a 3000 mile round trip from Norfolk, And Gadaffi has asked for support from other nations an basically stated his intentions to fight back & is opening weapons depots to civilians to defend their country [doesn't sound smart considering you have rebels in your country  ]
[Edited on 20-03-2011 by Ben D]
he's armed his supporters.
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Ben D
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well to quote Gadaffi he said "opening weapon stores to the people" an then later said in his most recent televised statement "everyone in Libya is now armed"
obviously his aim will be to arm his supporters but how will those handing out the weapons know the difference?
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@ everyone jumping on this bandwagon, this war is all about oil... just like we are swimming in oil already from the Iraq war 
If it was about Oil surely we would have exploited the situation in Bahrain too who don't have the military capabilities Libya do?
I would like to think it is one in an effort to save innocent civilians from a tyrant.
Edit: Your all forgetting, BP already had Oil contracts in Libya.
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So why haven't we invaded most of Africa
Exactamundo
We're never going to waltz into a country & get free oil, but what you can secure is more favourable contracts. Libya are one of the major oil exporters in Northern Africa, hardly surprising that everyone has jumped on the bandwagon
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http://http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oil_pro-energy-oil-production
Perhaps we should invade ourselves next?
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http://http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oil_pro-energy-oil-production
Perhaps we should invade ourselves next?
But what about the jews? And the greys? Would they allow this?
Also alot of people dont seem to understand how important having oil is. Plus without us "stealing" their oil, they would basicaly have no economy, and be in a far owrse position. Its only that the governments of these places dont distribute the wealth they recieve. Hence the up risings against the oppressive reigns of the dictators accross the middle east.
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ITT: People making ridiculous uninformed statements
The notion that we would go to war simply to procure oil is ridiculous, if that was the case then we would have stormed Iran long ago using their nuclear program as an excuse to remove Ahmedinejad.
[Edited on 20-03-2011 by Ben D]
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Russ
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Sorry super informed Chancellor of the Exchequer Ben D
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Ben D
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Apology accepted Russ, just don't let it happen again, ok?
[Edited on 20-03-2011 by Ben D]
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nobody has answered why we havent removed mugabe yet
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mwg
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You need removing
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Those typhoons look brilliant. Just watched them taking off on BBC News 
Corsa 2.0 16v Vegas - Sold
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nobody has answered why we havent removed mugabe yet
Because mugabe doesn't have lower blue arms, simples.
ANYWAY. Hilarious @ the arab nations changing their stance.. slightly worried now, still, at least it wasn't us that sent 112 tomahawks..
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nobody has answered why we havent removed mugabe yet
Because mugabe doesn't have lower blue arms, simples.
ANYWAY. Hilarious @ the arab nations changing their stance.. slightly worried now, still, at least it wasn't us that sent 112 tomahawks..
It was us, 1 of our submarines was firing the Tomahawk missiles with the American subs.
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Anyone that thinks this campaign isn't about oil must be incredibly naive.
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nobody has answered why we havent removed mugabe yet
Because mugabe doesn't have lower blue arms, simples.
ANYWAY. Hilarious @ the arab nations changing their stance.. slightly worried now, still, at least it wasn't us that sent 112 tomahawks..
It was us, 1 of our submarines was firing the Tomahawk missiles with the American subs.
 LAME. This seems to be esculating quickly now, not good
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3 US B2 stealth bombers bombed airfields in Libya today. Heres a list of US deployed military forces.
* United States Navy[5]
o USS Mount Whitney, the command ship
+ USS Kearsarge, a Wasp-class amphibious assault ship, with the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit onboard.
+ USS Ponce, an Austin-class amphibious transport dock
+ USS Barry, an Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer
+ USS Stout, another Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer
+ USS Providence, a Los Angeles-class nuclear attack submarine
+ USS Scranton, a second Los Angeles-class nuclear attack submarine
+ USS Florida, an Ohio-class cruise missile submarine
o EA-18G electronic warfare aircraft operating out of NAS Sigonella [6] and Aviano[7]
* United States Air Force[8]
o 3 x B-2 stealth bombers
o 10[9] x F-15E multirole fighters operating out of RAF Lakenheath[6][10]
o 8 x F-16C multirole fighters [6] F16s from Spangdahlem started leaving for Aviano on 20 March.[9]
o 2 x AC-130U arrived on Mildenhall on 18 March 2011.[9]
* United States Marine Corps
o 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit
o 4x AV-8B Harrier II Fighter Jets operating off USS Kearsarge.[6]
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mwg
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so have we started another war here or what?
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Ben D
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Anyone that thinks this campaign isn't about oil must be incredibly naive.
Quite the opposite, do you really believe that the UN would sanction this type of military action leading to the removal of a regime just so some of it's members could profit from the countries resources? do you honestly believe that? Do you not also think if this was the case Russia & China would not exercise their right to veto these actions? I mean if it is so blatantly obvious to somebody of your standing surely these 2 major nations wouldn't be so naive as to think this is simply the removal of a tyrant who is murdering civilians?
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The UN sanctioned the move to enter Libya to protect its 'assets'
Its funny how not long ago, the US and the UK were all matey matey with Libya, especially with the whole lockerbie bomber negotiations.
All of a sudden, there's a threat to the Oil reserves and supply and everyone goes steaming in. Libya poses no threat to us as a nation.
We will go into Iran eventually, for the same reason we went into Iraq only to find there was no WMD's there, to protect 'assets' Its not about protecting the people. Our forces and other forces have been murdering innocent civilians on a huge scale in every conflict we ever enter, whether its the illegal use of firing depleted uranium ammunition to help dispose of some of the USA's nuclear waste (whereas the UK normally just send it in shipments to other countries, another selfish act that countries with poor economies can't realistically afford to refuse)
The simple fact is, if they wanted to stop civilians being killed, we would withdraw from every single country we currently occupy / are invading and the rest of th eworld would follow suit. But lets face it, its not about the civilians, its about money and a far deeper rooted necessity - Oil.
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Ben D
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Next you'll be trying to say the revolt was instigated by the UN.
Also the very fact that a UK company already possesses a contract with Libya which renders your argument invalid. So i will just leave it there and leave you to believe whatever you have read in the Daily Mail 
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Plus Libya wouldnt be able to sell the Oil to anyone in the UN if they "stole" it. So it would be pretty much worthless.
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Tiger
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I don't read any newspaper, nor watch any news as it's all sensationalist, propaganda.
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Ben D
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Talking of propogana & blatant lies.
has anyone else been listening to Saif-al Gadaffi's interview with ABC news & Colonel Gadaffi speaking on Libyan state TV today?
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In times like these contracts mean shit, just a bit of paper.
Oil is worth billions, i'm sure we will profit from this war.
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Slightly off topic but does anyone giggle @ "USS Ponce"
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