Pop
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Again thanks for the advice. I'm starting on January the 4th so will see how I get on and adjust things accordingly.
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jaffa
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good luck  need anything give me a shout. report on your progress as sure I will learn a thing or two 
[Edited on 11-12-2009 by jaffa]
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DizzyRebel
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quote:
Originally posted by Pop
Ok here goes, diet plan take 2. Again, all constructive input is welcomed.
07: 00
1 x Shake made up of...
Impact Whey Protein 25g = 98cal
L Glutamine 3.6g
Semi-Skimmed Milk 100ml = 50cal
Water 50ml
08: 30
Porridge made up of...
Oat So Simple Original Porridge 27g = 98cal
Semi-Skimmed Milk 180ml = 90cal
Honey 1 tbsp = 50cal
Medium Sliced Banana x 1 = 100cal
Cod Liver Oil Soft Gel 1000mg x 1
Multi Vitamin 1000mg x 1
10: 30
Heinz Vegetable Soup 1/2 Tin 100g = 90cal
Wholemeal Pita x 1 = 145cal
11: 30
1 x Shake made up of...
Impact Whey Protein 25g = 98cal
L Glutamine 3.6g
Semi-Skimmed Milk 100ml = 50cal
Water 50ml
12: 30
Tuna Sandwiches x 2 made up of...
John West Tuna 130g = 146cal
Helmanns Extra Light Mayo 1 1/2 tbsp = 24g = 18cal
Weight Watchers Bagels x 2 = 134g = 288cal
15: 00
Tesco Walnuts 25g = 174cal
18: 00
Tesco Healthy Living Chicken (Grilled) 150g = 144cal
Bachelors Savoury Rice 1/2 Packet = 60g = 218cal
Tesco Olive Oil 1 tbsp = 135cal
Red Pepper (Steamed) 130g = 30cal
Multi Vitamin 1000mg x 1
19: 00
Workout
20: 00
1 x Shake made up of...
Impact Whey Protein 25g = 98cal
L Glutamine 3.6g
Semi-Skimmed Milk 100ml = 50cal
Water 50ml
21: 00
Tesco Brazil Nuts 25g = 175cal
Medium Banana = 100cal
So all in all that comes to 2445 calories
[Edited on 11-12-2009 by Pop]
Is that for bulking or cutting?
Lots of unwarranted carbs at random times and very little protein in relation to the amount of carbs and fat ingested.
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DizzyRebel
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Heres something i think will work better:
07: 00
1 x Shake made up of...
Impact Whey Protein 50g = 196cal
L Glutamine 3.6g
Semi-Skimmed Milk 200ml = 100cal
Water 50ml
08: 30
Porridge made up of...
Oat So Simple Original Porridge 27g = 98cal
25g whey powder = 98cal
Semi-Skimmed Milk 200ml = 100cal
Blueberries = 100cal
Cod Liver Oil Soft Gel 1000mg x 1
Multi Vitamin 1000mg x 1
10: 30
Heinz Vegetable Soup 1/2 Tin 100g = 90cal
John West Tuna 130g = 146cal
12: 30
Tuna Sandwiches x 2 made up of...
John West Tuna 130g = 146cal
Helmanns Extra Light Mayo 1 1/2 tbsp = 24g = 18cal
Weight Watchers Bagels x 2 = 134g = 288cal
15: 00
1 x Shake made up of...
Impact Whey Protein 50g = 196cal
L Glutamine 3.6g
Semi-Skimmed Milk 200ml = 100cal
Water 50ml
Tesco Walnuts 25g = 174cal
18: 00
Tesco Healthy Living Chicken (Grilled) 150g = 144cal
Bachelors Savoury Rice 1/2 Packet = 60g = 218cal
Tesco Olive Oil 1 tbsp = 135cal
Red Pepper (Steamed) 130g = 30cal
Multi Vitamin 1000mg x 1
19: 00
Workout
20: 00
1 x Shake made up of...
Impact Whey Protein 50g = 196cal
L Glutamine 3.6g
Vitargo powder 50g
Water 200ml
21: 00
Impact Whey Protein 25g = 98cal
Medium Banana = 100cal
Semi-Skimmed Milk 200ml = 100cal
22: 00
Tesco Brazil Nuts 25g = 175cal
Casein protein powder 50g
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fazza
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how do i get in on this
just noticed this
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Dan
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You can u2u me and ill sort you a dvd for a 5er
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Laney
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4 protein shakes a day?
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Pop
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Santa delivered a fridge freezer today so as far as I can see it's all good for a January 4th start.
Those doing this, is it essential to have a heart rate monitor?
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Paul_J
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I haven't... I just push as hard as i can.
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Tom A
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That diet plan is around 250g of protein, just from shakes, then there's all the other protein from food, it's like 400g of protein in total. No human body, unless it was on a LOT of gear, could utilize that amount of protein. You'll just be farting and sh*tting a lot of that out, and wasting most of your protein powder. Any normal person training could get away with half of that amount of protein, and probably still be taking in a bit too much.
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Marc
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I've been saying this for ages but people don't seem to grasp that what ever your body doesn't use you just shit straight back out.
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Tom A
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Too many people think that more is better when it comes to bodybuilding and the like, which is all good if you're loaded up on gear. But to anyone doing something like this, its pointless. A lot of it is common sense though, to cut up you lower your carb intake, to bulk up you raise it. Protein should stay the same really no matter what you do, about 1.5g ish per kg of bodyweight, any less and you're cutting your gains short, any more and you're gonna be spending a lot of time on the toilet.
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Paul_J
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I just got in from a run, loving this no explode... I'm basically doing a bit of a double p90x routine at the mo, cardio and work outs... trying to cut the body fat while training the muscle groups...
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Cosmo
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Just done the first day of phase 3, brought me right back to the first day of all this as it was Check and Back - its interesting comparing what I did that first day and what I just did then, so much more 
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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom A
Too many people think that more is better when it comes to bodybuilding and the like, which is all good if you're loaded up on gear. But to anyone doing something like this, its pointless. A lot of it is common sense though, to cut up you lower your carb intake, to bulk up you raise it. Protein should stay the same really no matter what you do, about 1.5g ish per kg of bodyweight, any less and you're cutting your gains short, any more and you're gonna be spending a lot of time on the toilet.
Im approx 200lbs (bit under), so by your calcs I should have 300g of protein a day - yet you say 250g is too much.....
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jaffa
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by Tom A
Too many people think that more is better when it comes to bodybuilding and the like, which is all good if you're loaded up on gear. But to anyone doing something like this, its pointless. A lot of it is common sense though, to cut up you lower your carb intake, to bulk up you raise it. Protein should stay the same really no matter what you do, about 1.5g ish per kg of bodyweight, any less and you're cutting your gains short, any more and you're gonna be spending a lot of time on the toilet.
Im approx 200lbs (bit under), so by your calcs I should have 300g of protein a day - yet you say 250g is too much.....
pounds and kg confusion there cosmo
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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by jaffa
quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by Tom A
Too many people think that more is better when it comes to bodybuilding and the like, which is all good if you're loaded up on gear. But to anyone doing something like this, its pointless. A lot of it is common sense though, to cut up you lower your carb intake, to bulk up you raise it. Protein should stay the same really no matter what you do, about 1.5g ish per kg of bodyweight, any less and you're cutting your gains short, any more and you're gonna be spending a lot of time on the toilet.
Im approx 200lbs (bit under), so by your calcs I should have 300g of protein a day - yet you say 250g is too much.....
pounds and kg confusion there cosmo
my bad, didnt read it properly
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Paul_J
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hmm, so I should be intaking 102g of protein a day...
I reckon i hit that alright.
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DizzyRebel
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom A
That diet plan is around 250g of protein, just from shakes, then there's all the other protein from food, it's like 400g of protein in total. No human body, unless it was on a LOT of gear, could utilize that amount of protein. You'll just be farting and sh*tting a lot of that out, and wasting most of your protein powder. Any normal person training could get away with half of that amount of protein, and probably still be taking in a bit too much.
This is where you get off the bulking train lol.
Regardless as to wether your body will 'use' the protein, you eat it because of the other benefits it has. Protein has the highest TEF, meaning simply consuming protein ramps up your metabolism and core temperature - meaning your body is instantly in anabolic fat burning mode. Protein also is the most filling of all macro nutrients, so eating protein will keep you full throughout the day. and finally, protein is near on impossible to convert to fat, so when you need extra calories to bulk up (and trust me, you need those calories) the best food to eat excess of is protein, as excess carbs/fat will be stored as body fat, protein will not be stored as fat and will help keep you lean.
What you 'think' the body can and cant use is irrelevant, protein has for more uses than simply repairing damaged muscle fibres. Id rather shit out excess protein knowing it has helped keep me lean, than store excess carbs as fat (also, your body hates to waste things, so you shit out a lot less than you think)
But to bulk up. 99% of the population wants to aim for 50g of lean protein every meal time if they are eating 6 meals a day. More if they are cutting.
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J da Silva
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
I've been saying this for ages but people don't seem to grasp that what ever your body doesn't use you just shit straight back out.
Hey, cheeky! I've always shared the same stance as far as weight training is concerned, so don't include me on that one.
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AdZ9
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Lol i would like to see what this program actually is, i've seen it put around some forums, but just thought it was one of those fad things.
Who has some copies left? I'll send you over a 5er or whatever it is, I just want to see what they get you to do
How much does it RRP at?
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Paul_J
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Cosmo you take bodyfortress don't you? ... I did bodyfortress, went to myprotein and back on body fortress.. fuck it tastes skank
myprotein strawberry is lovely! gonna definately get it again once i'm done with this body fortress shite.
just done my no xplode - ready to get on the weights... back and biceps...
Last night i decided to try the pull ups and i could do loads more than i could originally! ... 
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Dan
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u think that MP strawb is nice! try PHD, its 10x nicer!
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fazza
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wil send you over some dollar over the next few days dan for the dvds
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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
Cosmo you take bodyfortress don't you? ... I did bodyfortress, went to myprotein and back on body fortress.. fuck it tastes skank
myprotein strawberry is lovely! gonna definately get it again once i'm done with this body fortress shite.
Which bodyfortress one? I only have the midnight express one, in banana flavour. Mixes great and tastes the nicest of all the shakes Ive had so far.
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