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Originally posted by geordiecorsa
As has been previously said, education is a farce. No-one seems to be prepared to take responsibilty for actually setting a curriculum which educates, rather than faffs about doing half a job, and being a pain to actually use.

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Originally posted by Jules S
Educate, that is what you are paid for.

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Originally posted by Steve
Can people PLEASE stop using MSN Emoticon code that clearly WONT work

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Originally posted by ckallis500
so by what your all saying, no rolling road is accurate except the ones you use??? like i said, on the rolling road day the a standard car was run up showing almost exactly standard book figures, how would a few minutes suddenly make the rollers un-accurate? theres many cars i can think of, astra sport in tv - dbilas/exhaust/4branch showing over 140bhp, mine, my mates. according to the manufacturers i.e dbilas and mantzel they say proven 22bhp gain on std engine, that would bring a c16xe or x16xe to basicly 130bhp... i'm not being funny but i know the std head and cams can flow enough for 160bhp obviously not as easy with a manifold and not ITB'S. and dave, obviously theres not a predetermined rpm to set the limiter at, i said 7500rpm-8000rpm as a guide, say the power tailed off at over 8000rpm i would still not have the limiter set any higher than 8000rpm on a bottem end with std rods, i said this as a guide meaning the limiter would need to be set around this rpm, lets say sbd's throttle body kit for the c16xe, as a basic kit uses std head and cams, it should produce over/around 160bhp and they recomend the limit set to 7500rpm, the l30's cams the power might well not tail off till 8500rpm. purly said that as a guide, i prop have it set at 7500 just to be safe to be honest. you can think what u want but i believe that the rr printouts were faily accurate putting into consideration the power of other small block xe's that i have seen. no offence or anything to anyone but its just how i see things at the moment lol... chris

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Originally posted by Steve
No, todays announcement is..

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Originally posted by ckallis500
so by what your all saying, no rolling road is accurate except the ones you use??? like i said, on the rolling road day the a standard car was run up showing almost exactly standard book figures, how would a few minutes suddenly make the rollers un-accurate? theres many cars i can think of, astra sport in tv - dbilas/exhaust/4branch showing over 140bhp, mine, my mates. according to the manufacturers i.e dbilas and mantzel they say proven 22bhp gain on std engine, that would bring a c16xe or x16xe to basicly 130bhp... i'm not being funny but i know the std head and cams can flow enough for 160bhp obviously not as easy with a manifold and not ITB'S. and dave, obviously theres not a predetermined rpm to set the limiter at, i said 7500rpm-8000rpm as a guide, say the power tailed off at over 8000rpm i would still not have the limiter set any higher than 8000rpm on a bottem end with std rods, i said this as a guide meaning the limiter would need to be set around this rpm, lets say sbd's throttle body kit for the c16xe, as a basic kit uses std head and cams, it should produce over/around 160bhp and they recomend the limit set to 7500rpm, the l30's cams the power might well not tail off till 8500rpm. purly said that as a guide, i prop have it set at 7500 just to be safe to be honest. you can think what u want but i believe that the rr printouts were faily accurate putting into consideration the power of other small block xe's that i have seen. no offence or anything to anyone but its just how i see things at the moment lol... chris

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