namkeaps
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correct there is a variant of the f16 that has a closer ratio (therfore quicker acceleration for all your kiddies)
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Daimo B
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I thought there to be two F16s as well
Short ratio box with about a 130mph @ 6800rpm limiter (2.0 16v). Short Ratios
Long ratio box, longer than F16 CR, but shorter than F20 with a longer final drive and roughly the same top speed as the F20 (147mph@6800rpm)
Not 100% though....
[Edited on 20-07-2006 by VXR]
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Butler
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At the end of the day, you shouldnt racing on the road. Naughty naughty.
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whitter45
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quote:
Originally posted by Butler
At the end of the day, you shouldnt racing on the road. Naughty naughty.
whatever as if you haven't done it
This comment makes me laugh my balls off
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Butler
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If i have that doesnt make it right
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Steve
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about the only person speaking sense in this thread is whitter
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whitter45
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
about the only person speaking sense in this thread is whitter
cheers Steve at least someone can appreciate what I'm saying
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whitter45
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quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
Torque is a major factor in low revs and low gears as it the turning force that can be applied to the wheel
hence oil burners up to around 20 - 30 mph are very very quick
Power is needed at higher speeds to over come drag produce
hence over 120+ CTR take forever to gain more speed
Look at the pic below also in my mates R
This indicates what i mean about power
At 120+ the R is just hitting the V-Tec in 6th, in 5th you cannot take it past 120
Thus V-tec kicks in and 197 BHP is made available at 7800 but the drag produced is so much acceleration is minimal
The torque figure produced by this engine for 2.0 N/A is not that bad but not good
Its the point at which it is delivered thats the killer at 5800 - on the V-tec actuator
Having said all this the transmission and engine combo is one the best in the world for this sort of money
really takes time to get used to how you need to drive a CTR hence that why alot are not driven to their potential and seem slow
We once pulled off a roundabout in 3rd at about 3000 rpm and the car was left for dead by a VTS
Then on the next round about dropped it to second at 5500 rpm and the VTS could not be seen
They are not flexibale engines in the sense of performance. its all or nothing on the rev range I'm afraid
[Edited on 21-07-2006 by whitter45]
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Ditch
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quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
well I have raced my mate in a CTR and I couldn't leave him it was level all the way to about 100 then I pulled away
My mate is running 270 in his S3 and he can pull away from the CTR but I wouldn't say he left him for dead so I struggle to see how a 140 BHP corsa can beat a CTR
 I know... its ridiculous
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Ditch
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey
cant see a Type R thrashing a 2.0 Corsa. Corsa should have it in the bag. more torque, better delivery, lighter car, dont have to stop at Simmons mid-race etc etc
Monkey this is rubbish!!!!!
more torque... 10lbs / ft... hardly the massive difference you seem to think??? plus they have an extra 50bhp... which IS a big difference...
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mk4_astra
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Originally posted by corsa5dr
The CTR driver obviously cant drive it to its potential. Despite what people think and say , the CTR is a quick car. People seem to think a 2.0 Corsa will beat a CTR but not an ITR, but in reality there isnt really anything between the Type R's. Its just people have some kind of vendetta against the Civic.
A standard 2.0 Corsa gets to 100 in around 18 seconds at a guess? And the CTR is in the 16's.
ive noticed that on this board aswell, despite the fact that there would be nothing in a ITR vs CTR race people seem to hate the CTR and call it crap yet the ITR is one of the all time cool cars to own on here
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Akeemking
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My 299hp Corsa Turbo with mates 236hp stripped CTR...
From 2 gear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koOU_1goWBo
From 3 gear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA6q750uyoU
I know that mine it was not in good shape, stalled coz of temp/boost problems that night, but we can all enjoy the example.
This CTR was a nice one, with many streetracing miles... so, very well "rolledout", and that, for what i can see here in Portugal is very important...
Also this is a 17kms bridge... ( VDG - Vasco Da Gama )
See more examples:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=CTR+VDG&search=Search
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mk4_astra
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i cant see why they get so much stick on here tbh.
they are just as quick as the mk4_astra gsi, clio 182, mk5 golf gti etc. fair enough they seem to be a rich kids nova but that doesnt stop them being a great all round hot hatch.
also didnt robbo say his type r was slightly quicker than his mk5 golf gti?
as whitter45 says when it comes to the power its all or nothing in a type r
vtec
[Edited on 10-12-2006 by mk4_astra]
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Steve
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my 106gti will beat one, piece of piss
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topshot_2k
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quote:
Originally posted by mk4_astra
i cant see why they get so much stick on here tbh.
they are just as quick as the mk4_astra gsi, clio 182, mk5 golf gti etc. fair enough they seem to be a rich kids nova but that doesnt stop them being a great all round hot hatch.
also didnt robbo say his type r was slightly quicker than his mk5 golf gti?
as whitter45 says when it comes to the power its all or nothing in a type r
why the great all round? look gash, steering has lack of feeling. Engine is top notch if you dont mind ragging it to fook.
The get stick as so many people gone on about them as if they are supercars. they also act as if Vtec is some sort of huge turbo that only works at 5krpm. Its the cocks that brag about them that have ruined the image. Not even that quick
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Robin
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gear lever is in the wrong place too.
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Steve
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like a bus
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SportBoy
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or a citroen dispatch (bread) van
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Gary
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey
quote:
Originally posted by Ry_B
CTR's will beat the majority of other cars on the market these days IF you know how to drive them. Eg keep them in the VTEC zone! Most people can't drive them and give them a bad name
the VTEC zone, WTF? you do chat some shit.
I kno this was a while ago, but this annoyed me. The VTEC 'powerband' kicks in at 4500rpm. watch and learn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcT_ZyY3F0k&mode=related&search=
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Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
my 106gti will beat one, piece of piss
Which means my Corsa will beat one ''piece of piss''
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Robin
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does everyone take Steve's comments seriously?
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Steve
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looks like it 
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Scotty C
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I was being Sarcy
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mk4_astra
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vtec
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Robin
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