GF-91
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They brought it on themselves. They deserved it tbh.
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alan-g-w
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Originally posted by GaryF
They brought it on themselves. They deserved it tbh.
There you go again with the talking shite. Yes, they brought it on themselves, but to say they deserved to die is fucking shocking to say the least. I know this site's not the place to come if you're looking for sympathy or compassion but some of the comments in this thread are making people come across as robots.
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Jambo
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Deserved to die? Irrelevant tbh.
Consequences of illegal actions. If they weren't stealing they wouldn't of needed quad bikes to drive down a railway line....
Moral of the story...
DONT FUCKING STEAL.
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DannyB
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The thing is though, whether they deserved to die or not is irrelavant as they're dead because they decided to steal, had they not then they would still be here.
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Jambo
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exactly Danny
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alan-g-w
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I'm not trying to say that though. It's just that I was getting the impression that some people were saying they deserved to die for robbing a shop - that's a bit extreme to say the least.
Again, yes it was nobodies fault but their own. But in the same breath I would say, again, that they didn't deserve to die for stealing 40 grands worth of stuff. Irrelevant to the news story yes, but some peoples' comments made me ask the question about whether they deserved it.
To people saying they deserved to die for robbing a shop (GarF, John off the top of my head) - if someone committed 40 grand worth of fraud do they deserve to die too?
[Edited on 13-12-2009 by alan-g-w]
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DannyB
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If I went to my shop one day and discovered someone had stole X amounts worth of stock, the first though in my head would be that I hope they die the low life scum, or I'd be wanting to get my hands on them and kill them myself.
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GF-91
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Alan, they got what was coming, a train up their ass!
Ill put this simply, if they weren't being thieving badgers, they would be alive. Have you ever found yourself on a STOLEN quad on a railway track? Should hope not.
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Ian
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Originally posted by alan-g-w
If you said they deserved jail or a similair fair punishment I would be completely agreeing with you.
I wouldn't generally recommend that, it's more expensive for one. Year in jail costs the tax payer around £40k per year, adjusting for inflation on some old figures. That's before you've faffed about protecting their human rights during a trial in which you've had to spend months of man hours preparing for and staffing with a whole load of people paid by taxpayers.
Death on the day is an absolute bargain.
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GF-91
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40k ? Really? Didn't know it was that much ! 
Not arguing there, just baffled about where the 40k goes.
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Ian
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Wages mostly, then accommodation and food, Playstations, English and Maths lessons, that type of tomfoolery.
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GF-91
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I don't get why they get maths lessons?
Lmao. Seems stupid. And playstations wtf that's wrong.
That right there has made me further think that those thieves deserved it. They don't deserve an education and computer games. They should be made to stitch pants or something.
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Ian
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Yeah there's an entire government department dedicated to it.
http://www.dcsf.gov.uk/offenderlearning/index.cfm
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IvIarkgraham
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they'll have lessons so they can better themselves when they get released
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GF-91
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Ill tell you where the money would be better spent. Lethal injections.
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SVM 286
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Or on rocket trains, primed and ready at the front and back doors of every shop in the nation. 
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Wages mostly, then accommodation and food, Playstations, English and Maths lessons, that type of tomfoolery.
Yup! My missus works in a prison and she doesn't do badly out of it.
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alan-g-w
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Originally posted by alan-g-w
To people saying they deserved to die for robbing a shop (GarF, John off the top of my head) - if someone committed 40 grand worth of fraud do they deserve to die too?
Nobody wanting to answer that?
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Jambo
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Yes Alan, taking something that isnt yours is a crime, and a drain on society caused by a selfish minority.
Fraud is still taking without owning, however indirect it may be. Its dishonest and the easy way out. Thus the same thing
[Edited on 14-12-2009 by Jambo]
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GF-91
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Nobody wanting to answer that?
Here's your answer; then again, jambo said what I would say.
Nobody wanting to answer that? Lmfao! Honestly... You say it like it will make me give a rats ass about your opinion on how the thieving badgers didn't deserve what was coming...
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Who honestly gives a shit 
They decided to blag a shop, they tried getting away they are now dead because of there actions.......THE END
Some people go way way waaaay into giving a shit about things like this, its not stopping anyone from living their lives so just move on.............Jesus
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alan-g-w
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
quote:
Originally posted by alan-g-w
If you said they deserved jail or a similair fair punishment I would be completely agreeing with you.
I wouldn't generally recommend that, it's more expensive for one. Year in jail costs the tax payer around £40k per year, adjusting for inflation on some old figures. That's before you've faffed about protecting their human rights during a trial in which you've had to spend months of man hours preparing for and staffing with a whole load of people paid by taxpayers.
Death on the day is an absolute bargain.
More like £30k: http://www.sps.gov.uk/default.aspx?documentid=B08BF1B6-292B-4B39-B850-0EE5A87924BD. And if you're saying prison wouldn't have been the place for them if they survived what do you think should have been done with them?
It's your opinion and I'm not going to change it. But at the end of the day everyone saying they deserved to die for stealing needs their head checked, or to move to the middle east.
[Edited on 14-12-2009 by alan-g-w]
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Nobody deserves to die for stealing coats. But I can put my hands up and say I laughed that they did.
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alan-g-w
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quote:
Originally posted by GaryF
Nobody wanting to answer that?
Here's your answer; then again, jambo said what I would say.
Nobody wanting to answer that? Lmfao! Honestly... You say it like it will make me give a rats ass about your opinion on how the thieving badgers didn't deserve what was coming...
Why the fuck would I want to change anyone's opinion? Don't flatter yourself into thinking I give a fuck what you think of the whole thing. I just want everyone to see it from the same angle as me.
Then again, you've got your nose so far up every 'in crowd' members' arse that it's hard to tell if it's your opinion or not.
[Edited on 14-12-2009 by alan-g-w]
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Ian
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£30k or £40k, its still compares unfavorably to having a job and contributing to the economy. I would rather give 10 nurses an extra 200 quid per month.
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Re-Offending is costly to society, both in economic and social terms. A re-offending former prisoner costs on average £65,000 to re-imprison, and £40,000 a year whilst they are in prison.
That is from the link I posted. Ultimately it doesn't matter on the exact figure, its not zero.
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