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Trotty
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   7th Nov 03 at 08:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Erm, actually, no I haven't

Running a single JL 500/1 at the moment, and 2 JL 12" W3V2-D2's

I've got a Directed 1.2 farad power cap but even with that, I'm still getting dimming lights on big drops. Is this down to needing a bigger cap, or a meatier battery in the first place? If so, recommendations..

Optima Red Top?
That Exide jobby?

Also, if I do change the battery, is it worth changing the alternator too?

Ta in advance folks
m-dot
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7th Nov 03 at 09:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I get dimming lights aswell

Read your emails you cunt
TOMAS
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Bigger altenator first (if possible) and then upgrade to a bigger battery OR split charge with another battery (sealed jelly battery) in the boot
Trotty
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m-dot - I read it last night! Just forgot to reply to your U2U...

TOMAS - ah ok, so you'd recommend a better altenator before changing the std battery?
Richie
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Well in most cases try and upgrade the standard battery too, get a diesel battery. My Exide one has 650CCA's and helped greatly powering the headunit, fogs ect. Was only £27.99, defo worth it.


Upgrading the alternator is indeed the first thing. It supplies much more power than a battery, much quicker.
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i woulld have thought u'd upgrade the battery and alternator before u start considering a cap?
TOMAS
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Yes cap is always last. Without the alternator their would be NO power in the first place! Bigger batteries always seem to show as a good result as they have a higher capacity and dont flatten as quick but often wont last that long, well not as long as if they had a GOOD altenator charging them
Trotty
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Ah righty, okey doke peeps, thanks for the help.

Time to look into getting a better alternator then.

You think one from a 1.8 or the 1.7d would be a suitable choice?
Trotty
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Dave_Gordon
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Why dont you get one of those optima batterys for your boot should do the job nicely!!!!!!!!
easier wiring for amp aswell!!!
Richie
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Your gonna want one with around a 70a output or higher.

Dave, if you dont get a better alternator ect the second battery will never get a decent charge anyway.
combatprojex
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where is the alternator how much are they and what does it do??
Trotty
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Righty, went into Vauxhall tonight and Bosch do a 120a altenator for the 1.4SRi - however...

Because they're still fairly new, they don't do exchange units yet so a brand new one will be £321
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by Trotty
Righty, went into Vauxhall tonight and Bosch do a 120a altenator for the 1.4SRi - however...

Because they're still fairly new, they don't do exchange units yet so a brand new one will be £321

WTF thats stooopid amount mate although that is through vauxhall, so no suprises there Thought about going to your local scrappy? or cant you go to bosch directly and get one?

Sorry to nick the thread, anyone know whats the max size alt i can get for a 1.2? Just want to replace it even before i start wacking amps in my car (sorry about the hijack)

[Edited on 13-11-2003 by VisibleMan]
Trotty
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I've got a 1.2 as well, just trying to fudge a bigger one on from a higher model

AFAIK one from one of the higher end diesels should be ideal, just need to know if it'll fit or not...
Richie
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Trotty, just get a 70a one and get it uprated, will work out much cheaper.
Trotty
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Ya reckon? If so, furry muff

You know what I'm gonna ask next though...
Richie
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Phone around them lot for alternator uprating to get prices and to see if they do it.

Or did u want details of where to get a 70a one
Trotty
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Good work fella!

Appreciate that
TOMAS
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If you have the 1.2 16V XE lump the Vecta V6 alts will fit - 100/120A but you will need to remove the air-duct pipe from the new alt. Also it MAY give you poor engine efficiency and ive heard of cases where with a big enough bass note and a massive alt they can stall the engine!!
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quote:
Originally posted by TOMAS
...and ive heard of cases where with a big enough bass note and a massive alt they can stall the engine!!


yea, but surely you would have an uprated battery and even have a split charging system going if your taking that amount of power?
The only problem i can see having a bigger alt is that you will loose power from the engine
Btw, anyone know what alt is on a 1.2 corsa B as standard? i heard it was 60A? And does anyone know the max you could fit to a B?
Trotty
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quote:
Originally posted by TOMAS
If you have the 1.2 16V XE lump the Vecta V6 alts will fit - 100/120A but you will need to remove the air-duct pipe from the new alt. Also it MAY give you poor engine efficiency and ive heard of cases where with a big enough bass note and a massive alt they can stall the engine!!


Bloooooody 'ell! That's not good...

Looks like a fair bit of research is going to be required then...

 
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