AK
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Hi....
Looking for a bit of advice.... Im looking to order my cams next week and im a bit unsure as to what spec to go for.
The engine will be a 2.1 16v on throttle bodies. The car will be used for track and sprint use. So, im thinking over 300degrees but im unsure of lift etc?
Also.... im only planning the use std valves for now, but new solid lifters, uprated springs/caps n platforms.... Will the std valves be ok?
Any help or thoughts welcome 
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craigpcg
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i would av thought that ud need to uprated vales , lifters etc cos there's a guy up my way that put tb's on him newly rebuild standard engine but it never lasted long. unsure of what damage but it wasnt nice
and he didnt rag it that much BUt i no u will so it will lasted even shorter
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AK
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yes..... lifters are going to be uprated to solid type...
but with spending 1k on head alone as it is 
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AK
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I think i should go for something along the lines of there race cams... 4k to 8.5k powerband
Inlet - .462" 11.73mm
Ex - .435" 11.05mm
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Adam-D
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may be better asking the company your buying them from, or on mig
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AK
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http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=1401578#post1401578
done.....
Been advised to go a bit tamer than i was wanting to go......
still need to spend a bit like 
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Andy
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It all depends on where you want your powerband, which depends on rev limit and gear ratios. Best bet is to find people who've got a similar spec engine and ask them what's worked for them. Playing around with different cam profiles can get expensive...
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AK
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been advised to stick to hyd followers for now as im not wanting to uprate valves etc etc as i can just see this bucket costing mega bucks..
from SBD after a phone call
Hi Adam,
The total price for your order is £826.91 including carriage & VAT.
This includes the following parts:
CM16V2-H278EX (if you are running a distributor, you will need the longer cam shaft. Otherwise unless you have modified the cylinder head, there is no benefit to using the shorter cam shaft)
CM16V2-H284IN
VLC-6K-S (this is a steel valve cap set which has replaced the VLC-6K)
VLS-06K
VLV-SS1
CMVP-1 (from your information these should be the correct pulleys, however if you wish to verify the type, the tooth patterns are shown on the web site in the parts section)
VLV-RT3 (these are the spring seats)
If you wish to order the items, once payment have been received the cam shafts can be ordered. These should take approx 1 week to arrive here.
Kim
I will go to 300'ish degree once i have played around with this spec... which should be good for around 220bhp
After that id go for new valves and guides, steel rods and a fully balanced bottom end.... giving me the rev range to fully use the lumpier cams
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AK
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m scared to go ahead with this as i will not have any more excuses (not including unforseen ones) for not having it done
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BAZ 1256
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iv got piper 285's on my 2L and they are fine. running standard pistons, valves etc.
now getting 212 bhp out of it.
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AK
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std pistons on 285?
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Ditch
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quote:
Originally posted by BAZ 1256
iv got piper 285's on my 2L and they are fine. running standard pistons, valves etc.
now getting 212 bhp out of it.
I take it you are running quad throttle bodies then?
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AK
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yup, he has a 2.0 TB the same colour as mine
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Adam-D
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ooo getting close to the build
finally
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BAZ 1256
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam Kindness
std pistons on 285?
yep
its ok iv got a spare engine sitting waitng just in case.
if my engine lasts then spare will get done up over winter
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BAZ 1256
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam Kindness
yup, he has a 2.0 TB the same colour as mine
was the same colour as yours, not for long though.
will post a few pics once im done.
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AK
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fancu colours or white?
Im gonna go white n red
And i also have a complete spare engine
not quite the same spec like
the one going in......
284 SBD cams
88mm SBD pocketed forged pistons
Uprated SBD valve caps
Uprated SBD valve seats
Uprated SBD valve springs
Uprated SBD valve seals
Flowed Powerzone coscat head
new shells
knife edged balanced crank
QED TB's
DTA ecu
Tran x diff
300mm brakes
eh....
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BAZ 1256
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was going to go for blue and white, but have changed my mind.
oainting it yamaha R1 blue and putting on white and lighter blue flashes.
also got new set of compmotive MO alloys and yoko tarmac tyres.
need to get a lsd soon though, should have done it when i had the gearbox out but oh well shit happens.
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BAZ 1256
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forgot to put my spec up
2l 16v
285 piper ultimat road/race cams
piper vernier pulleys(look good)
sbd/jenvey throttle bodies
mbe management syatem
con rod bolts
212bhp @ 7000rpm
revs to 7500 though, thats after a redline was mapped in,used to rev past 8000 rpm.though that might be a bit of a killer on the engine.
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AK
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latest times?
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BAZ 1256
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last time at edzell had
14.28 @98mph
was quickest up to 2L car of the day.
wasnt set up properly then,had it set up by rickey gaulds since then so we will see at next edzell.
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AK
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getting better
aiming to have mine up and ready this year and aiming for aprox 230bhp prob less...
Are you finding traction off the line a nightmare?
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