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nickyboy01
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Originally posted by nickyboy01
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Originally posted by J-Me
Anyone actually got the 2nd crash on video?


The twin towers crash?

Both were caught on camera, one by a fireman filing a documentary and the 2nd by most newscrews


Yeah just want to see a video of it


All in this compliation


http://www.josephgoss.com/standdown.wmv



[Edited on 12-09-2004 by nickyboy01]
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why realease a fil frm the pentagon camera but not all the other cameras that apparently caught something, and the fbi took those film away within minutes?
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Originally posted by nickyboy01
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Originally posted by J-Me
Anyone actually got the 2nd crash on video?


The twin towers crash?

Both were caught on camera, one by a fireman filing a documentary and the 2nd by most newscrews


the first one was actually by a couple of frogs who were making a documentary on NY firemen
Nath
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why realease a fil frm the pentagon camera but not all the other cameras that apparently caught something, and the fbi took those film away within minutes?


Did they though or was that bull shit that other tapes existed? Who are we to know?
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apparantly there were federal agents came in a took video tapes from a gas station near the pentagon.....plus they say that is the only cctv coverage they have, aye right
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At the end of the day none of us are gonna know the truth unless we see video evidence. all these films etc made about it arent going to have any of the sensitive material in them from the pentagon etc due to the nature of the building. How do we know the pics in the film are from the inside of the pentagon, we dont because new crews etc have never been allowed inside therefore nobody knows what it is like.
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still an amazing willingness to go against what has already been said on this post. it WAS a 757, not a jet fighter, commercial airliners are rather more "acrobatic" than you might think. also, it is not impossible for a modern airliner to sustain mach 1 flight for a very short period in a shallow dive. Boeing did this way back in the 80's when releasing the 747SP model, and put it into a mach 0.95 dive for a number of minutes.
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No-one knows the exact truth unless you were there. Its all good watching the conspiracy videos (that are made to get you to beleive that it was a missile etc) but there are only going to be a few people who truly know the truth. You cant say it 'WAS' a 757 (unless you were there), equally other people cant say it wasnt.

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there is no explanation to why people think it WASNT flight77. Therefore, since this was the missing aircraft according to ATC, and that it hasnt been found since, only concludes that it was flight77 boeing 757 that crashed into the pentagon. end of story.
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Originally posted by the_legend_of_yrag
why realease a fil frm the pentagon camera but not all the other cameras that apparently caught something, and the fbi took those film away within minutes?


it is actually standard practice to take any film of an air crash thats available in order for the cause to be investigated, obviously in this case the cause is fairly obvious but they can still use the videos for evidence/investigation purposes
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Just to prove that aircraft do turn into dust when travelling so fast...

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/concreteplane.html

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Just to prove that aircraft do turn into dust when travelling so fast...

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/concreteplane.html

Dave


An US F4 Phantom Jet tests the strength of a concrete wall built to withstand a nuclear blast by crashing into it at 500 MPH

not exactly a passenger jet now is it
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Originally posted by k4rma
quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
Just to prove that aircraft do turn into dust when travelling so fast...

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/concreteplane.html

Dave


An US F4 Phantom Jet tests the strength of a concrete wall built to withstand a nuclear blast by crashing into it at 500 MPH

not exactly a passenger jet now is it


dumb ass, not exactly a big wall was it. The 757 would have been travelling faster than 500mph for one thing, and was smashed intoi one hell of a big building, that is probably designed with this kind of attack in mind, hence the structure shape and different zones within the initial boundary. A 757 weighs around 110 metric tonnes fully laden, a phantom is about 15 tonnes empty. Get my point?
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^^^^

give up mate some people just never listen to reason! i know you it about it turning to dust and you know your right and anyone else who knows anything about this sort of thing knows your right thats good enough!
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cheers blacky, your a pal
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
quote:
Originally posted by k4rma
quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
Just to prove that aircraft do turn into dust when travelling so fast...

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/concreteplane.html

Dave


An US F4 Phantom Jet tests the strength of a concrete wall built to withstand a nuclear blast by crashing into it at 500 MPH

not exactly a passenger jet now is it


dumb ass, not exactly a big wall was it. The 757 would have been travelling faster than 500mph for one thing, and was smashed intoi one hell of a big building, that is probably designed with this kind of attack in mind, hence the structure shape and different zones within the initial boundary. A 757 weighs around 110 metric tonnes fully laden, a phantom is about 15 tonnes empty. Get my point?


dumb ass? oh thats so big of you aint it??

i couldnt give a shit if it was a plane or what the fuck it was, but showing a smaller jet crashing into a solid concrete wall so many feet thick does not compare to a passenger jet crashing into a thinner wall, dumb ass

its just like saying, if i drove at a certain speed in a car, into a fully grown oak tree, a lorry doing a higher speed into a fence would have the same outcome on the vehicle

[Edited on 21-09-2004 by k4rma]
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We are sorry. But the file you are looking for is not here
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quote:
Originally posted by k4rma
quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
quote:
Originally posted by k4rma
quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
Just to prove that aircraft do turn into dust when travelling so fast...

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/concreteplane.html

Dave


An US F4 Phantom Jet tests the strength of a concrete wall built to withstand a nuclear blast by crashing into it at 500 MPH

not exactly a passenger jet now is it


dumb ass, not exactly a big wall was it. The 757 would have been travelling faster than 500mph for one thing, and was smashed intoi one hell of a big building, that is probably designed with this kind of attack in mind, hence the structure shape and different zones within the initial boundary. A 757 weighs around 110 metric tonnes fully laden, a phantom is about 15 tonnes empty. Get my point?


dumb ass? oh thats so big of you aint it??

i couldnt give a shit if it was a plane or what the fuck it was, but showing a smaller jet crashing into a solid concrete wall so many feet thick does not compare to a passenger jet crashing into a thinner wall, dumb ass

its just like saying, if i drove at a certain speed in a car, into a fully grown oak tree, a lorry doing a higher speed into a fence would have the same outcome on the vehicle

[Edited on 21-09-2004 by k4rma]


WTF thin wall? have you actually seen the pentagon up close?? The walls are MUCH thicker than the walls in the phantom video dumb ass.
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I think cybermonkey really has hit the nail on the head. seeing that link probebly proves that this all really did happen and the plane was virtually vaporised in the impact.
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It was'nt, seconds before impact it was sucked into a tractor beam and sent into space.
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I think oliver really has hit the nail on the head. seeing that link probebly proves that this all really did happen and the plane was sent into space my a tractor beam, probably from ollies anus.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24

WTF thin wall? have you actually seen the pentagon up close?? The walls are MUCH thicker than the walls in the phantom video dumb ass.


LOL my thoughts exactly, as i said before theres no telling some people give up! LOL

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