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jaffa
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30th Dec 05 at 13:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My PC keeps freezing and need help finding out why as built it myself and even though all parts arefrom same shop i have to find out what is wrong myself and take that part for replacement.

wonder if any tips to try find out what it is

wondering if its memory problems, got two 256mb sticks might run it with just one at a time see if thats the probelm, but was wondering if there is software to use to test memory?

also cpu, any software test that? all temperatures seem ok and got plenty fans running to take out hot air

rest of spec is:
xp - not dodgy copy
corsair ram PC3200 2 * 256mb
maxtor SATA HDD
AMD xp2800
powercolor ati radeon 9800 AIW
asus a7n8x-e deluxe motherboard
nec DVD writer
Corsa Sport Gav
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30th Dec 05 at 13:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

wen if freezes dus a do a little beep?
L33 LEG
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my laptop used to freeze all the time, turned out it was the memory, so put the old memory in and it was fine
jaffa
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30th Dec 05 at 13:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Corsa Sport Gav
wen if freezes dus a do a little beep?


no

whole thing just freezes then regain control of mouse then freezes again

fresh install of xp yesterday and still does it
Corsa Sport Gav
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30th Dec 05 at 14:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

id say RAM, hav u got any spare u cud swop it ova with?
L33 LEG
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30th Dec 05 at 14:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

does it sumtimes freeze when booting up,before it gets to windows?
L33 LEG
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30th Dec 05 at 14:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just take 1 of the ram sticks out (only take 2mins) and try it
Icy
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30th Dec 05 at 14:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by L33 LEG
does it sumtimes freeze when booting up,before it gets to windows?


mine sometimes does that
can get into safemode but cant fix it, randomly works again
jaffa
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30th Dec 05 at 14:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

can pause before windows boots up but rarely (blue bar pauses for bit then carries on)

will try taking each stick ram out and running each one seperately

is there any software that can use to help check?

might go mums later and swap ram over with hers see if that clears it up
L33 LEG
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30th Dec 05 at 14:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Icy
quote:
Originally posted by L33 LEG
does it sumtimes freeze when booting up,before it gets to windows?


mine sometimes does that
can get into safemode but cant fix it, randomly works again


it might be like mine and had faulty memory, it worked perfect after i changed it back
drax
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30th Dec 05 at 14:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

its the hardrive I garrentee

[Edited on 30-12-2005 by drax]
liveseytowers
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30th Dec 05 at 14:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Could be a number of things. If it still does it then try it without the graphics card. If that doesnt work then scan your HDD for errors? What software have you got installed?
drax
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30th Dec 05 at 14:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

take the hard drive out, put a IDE hard drive in and boot, see if it does it
jamied
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30th Dec 05 at 14:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i think ram or hdd
jaffa
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30th Dec 05 at 16:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by liveseytowers
Could be a number of things. If it still does it then try it without the graphics card. If that doesnt work then scan your HDD for errors? What software have you got installed?


very little s/w fresh install xp not much else, still does it
jaffa
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30th Dec 05 at 16:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

might see if can get a IDE hard drive from work to test

RAM - think it maybe this will experiment later removing one stick @ a time
Andrew
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31st Dec 05 at 12:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Check the fan on the graphics card. On the ATI 9600 XT i had the fan went and was causing the computer to lose power and power back up.

Could be the memory too, try one chip at a time.

What PSU do you have?
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I'd also try a format too.
John
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31st Dec 05 at 17:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Random problems are in most cases memory.

http://www.memtest86.com/ for testing memory

Might not even be dodgy ram, but just an incompatibility between ram and board.
jaffa
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1st Jan 06 at 20:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
Check the fan on the graphics card. On the ATI 9600 XT i had the fan went and was causing the computer to lose power and power back up.

Could be the memory too, try one chip at a time.

What PSU do you have?


400w taurus

gonna try memory tomorrow i think atogh it is erratic when it happens

graphics card fan seems ok
jaffa
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1st Jan 06 at 20:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by John
Random problems are in most cases memory.

http://www.memtest86.com/ for testing memory

Might not even be dodgy ram, but just an incompatibility between ram and board.


cheers will have a look

RAM should be compatible as was sold as a bundle
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1st Jan 06 at 20:36   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Does it randomly happen or when you do a certain task?

Have you checked the running temp of the motherboard and cpu while the machine is idle and doing a CPU/GPU intensive task?

Its quite possbile its memory like others are suggesting, its also possible that the box is overheating due to the cooling setup not meeting the requirements it needs.

I've had this in the past, it was a fan not moving/attached as the cable had been snagged, causing the box to heat up as soon as it was booted.

 
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