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would be really kean on doing it.. but how much does an average set up cost?
you can be moving for 2k id say. thats actually driving about. set 2500 aside and youll be happy
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M6RKK
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alot of money for 150bhp ...
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Dave A
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still cheaper than a supercharger. (done properly)
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M6RKK
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wish somone had it done near me so i could get a shot to see if it is worth it
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Dave A
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less power for more money???? bad idea.
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M6RKK
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less power for more money???? bad idea.
what u mean ?
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Dave A
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why do a supercharger converion if throttle bodies would give more power and cost less?
or have u given up on the charger idea?
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jr
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personally i would go for the mantzel set up andy hamilton had before he went to tb's
165bhp from it, reliably
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broster
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personally i would go for the mantzel set up andy hamilton had before he went to tb's
165bhp from it, reliably
more money spent at that then a basic tb set tho i bet my left tb on it
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from memory
Pocketed pistons
256 shrick cams
mantzel
Venier pullies
Omex ECU
SBD manifold
Decat
ermmmmmmmm
[Edited on 29-05-2006 by jr]
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Dave A
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I did the mantzel route before the tb's.
wish I hadnt now, it cost the same in the end as a tb kit would have cost and the difference is huge. New inlets are good but its not a 'real' 150 bhp. pretty flat until 5500 rpm then u hit the limiter. Tb's give give power from 1000 rpm, dont have to wait for what seems ages for the power.
if you want a mildly tuned engine then a mantzel is ideal, but you will get bored of it pretty quickly.
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Originally posted by vaux-tech
tbh superchargers are better than turbo's because they give the constant supply of power when you boot it, as with a turbo it may take time to come onto boost. the best thing to do with the c16/x16xe's if you have a decent budget would be to....
port/polish and skim 'to death' the cylinder head
dblias inlet manifold with uprated/bigger injectors
lightened and balanced crankshaft/uprated pistons
full stainless steel exhaust system with induction kit.
or do wat everyone else does and drop in the good ol'redtop!
just a few questions,
1.why fit bigger injectors?
2. why fit uprated pistons?
not gonna benefit from them. anyway doing all that for just 130 bhp is a waste.
Because it's using forced induction 
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Originally posted by Dave A
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Originally posted by vaux-tech
tbh superchargers are better than turbo's because they give the constant supply of power when you boot it, as with a turbo it may take time to come onto boost.
the best thing to do with the c16/x16xe's if you have a decent budget would be to....
port/polish and skim 'to death' the cylinder head
dblias inlet manifold with uprated/bigger injectors
lightened and balanced crankshaft/uprated pistons
full stainless steel exhaust system with induction kit.
or do wat everyone else does and drop in the good ol'redtop!
just a few questions,
1.why fit bigger injectors?
2. why fit uprated pistons?
not gonna benefit from them. anyway doing all that for just 130 bhp is a waste.
Because it's using forced induction
but he wasnt refering to a supercharged engine
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M6RKK
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its alot of money to throw at an engine when i could double if and get a pulser or somthing much quicker..
but a suppose thats what its al about tho
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M6RKK
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Originally posted by Dave A
standard engine ur looking at 150ish bhp with tb's. Ignore SBD claims of 165 bhp.
fit ARP rod bolts and SBD rollers and you can raise rev limit to 8k and have some real fun! its leaves the door open for future mods as well, balanced bottom end, pocketed pistons, wild cams...... and with the right money 220 bhp.
whats your engine sitting at ? and what have you done ?
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M6RKK
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ttt
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jamesvalver
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foxy used to have a supercharged gsi IIRC
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M6RKK
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IIRC ?
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RKS
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If I Remember Correctly
Personally mate id go down the tb's route.
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Teddy
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This is the thing,
Everyone is saying tb's - now dont get me wrong they are awesome, but the charger (although a lot of work) has a couple of significant advantages....
1 - Road manors
2 - Torque
If you charge it it will have torque tb's could only dream of and that is the real downfall of having a small block engine 
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Dave A
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Originally posted by M6RKK
quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
standard engine ur looking at 150ish bhp with tb's. Ignore SBD claims of 165 bhp.
fit ARP rod bolts and SBD rollers and you can raise rev limit to 8k and have some real fun! its leaves the door open for future mods as well, balanced bottom end, pocketed pistons, wild cams...... and with the right money 220 bhp.
whats your engine sitting at ? and what have you done ?
1998 x16xe
Ported and polished head
Omex 500 ecu and loom
Novatech 40mm throttle bodies
Speedex 30 degree inlet manifold
C20XE blue injectors
Janspeed exhaust manifold
Janspeed exhaust system
Piper de-cat
Pipercross air filter
ARP rod bolts and SBD cam belt rollers
Webber alpha wideband lambda
Webber alpha fuel pressure regulator
Rhoose motorsport coolant hoses
Kerr Nelson Ignition Leads
puts out 155bhp@ wheels (approx 170 at fly) and 117ft/lb of tourqe
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M6RKK
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ooft nice one dave... how much u recon uve spent all in ... bet its sore!
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