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Author Supra's, what are the non-turbo's like?
AK
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29th Nov 06 at 14:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Dont rule out an auto with out trying one in anger. VERY good, and strong gear boxes.

With a few tricks (removing 'trac' fuse) they can change gear much quickers than Mr Average in his 5sp.

Removing the fuse disables the traction, but also stops the ECU smooting out the gear changes. Quicker if you can live with actually feeling it change gear.
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What ever happened to that Leon blokes Auto Supra (guy with 1 leg)?

That ran an uprated auto box, revved much higher than the other autos, also went like crap off a shovel...

Went to TOTB one year (Think?) then never saw it again?
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I've told him that the auto's are betther than the manuals but he wanted manual!!!!

Apperently the auto's as std are stronger and can take more bhp (tt one) than the manual..
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it had a high rated stall (torque convertor - TC3600).... could launch at 3600rpm of whatever.

He was at TOTB 2 yrs ago i think. The silver (DUDE?) was the quicker one thatyear... AUTO too!

Leon built mine.

[Edited on 29-11-2006 by AK]
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quote:
Originally posted by Cupra Steve
I've told him that the auto's are betther than the manuals but he wanted manual!!!!

Apperently the auto's as std are stronger and can take more bhp (tt one) than the manual..


who told you that shite?

GETRAG 6sp supra box is VERY strong.
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REally, where'd they all go?

Only really see that gold one, and a few other newish ones knocking around these days... All the old "old skool" supras seemed to have gone...

Bit like all the old Corsas on here (usually smashed up, broken up, sold up to Mr Kipling in Never Never land etc )
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29th Nov 06 at 14:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
not sure.... my membership has expired on www.mkivsupra.net so cant read much.
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
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Originally posted by Cupra Steve
I've told him that the auto's are betther than the manuals but he wanted manual!!!!

Apperently the auto's as std are stronger and can take more bhp (tt one) than the manual..


who told you that shite?

GETRAG 6sp supra box is VERY strong.


Some bloke i was talking to at a jap meet at ace cafe, he had over 800bhp, and funnily enough it was auto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel like a prick now, shouldn't listen to people!!!!!!
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all the info you need is on www.mkiv.com or msoc.co.uk

alot of folk prefer auto for draggin' because they are apparently very efficient at changing gears, its also rumoured to be stronger than a manual 'box but the info ive read theres not much in it.

im looking for a RZ (6sp manual TT)

check out whiffbitz or GT-cars for serious metal.
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the turbo engine is wicked. Friend has a Lexus Vs300. Same engine thats in the Supra. His car was owned by Thor racing before him. Had a different exhaust and a few tweeks and made 400bhp. Absolute monster.
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The stock 2JZ-GTE stock engine components are astonishingly rugged, capable of withstanding power outputs of over 1000 bhp (~850rwhp dynojet / ~730rwhp dyno dynamics) without having to update any internal components


1000bhp on stock pistons, rods, and crank????

for how long? !!!
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think thats a bit far fetched, but the are pretty tough engines if running right (not lean etc)
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my mates girl friends dad has one running around 600bhp and it's awesome!!!! God knows what 1000bhp feels like,
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Originally posted by AK
think thats a bit far fetched, but the are pretty tough engines if running right (not lean etc)



I bet if it were mapped with some kind of aftermarket, and all the bolt on mods to support 600bhp... it wouldnt last all that long...! Things would distort surely!!!
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The 3S-GTE has been tuned to 450bhp over in the states without doing any internal mods... but it went pop very quickly!!

Standard pistons simply cant cope with that at all...
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The 3S-GTE has been tuned to 450bhp over in the states without doing any internal mods... but it went pop very quickly!!

Standard pistons simply cant cope with that at all...


post 94 blocks are solid
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Should we set-up a big dancefloor?
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Go for a UK SPEC
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom
Should we set-up a big dancefloor?




Get back to Off Day.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ditch
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The stock 2JZ-GTE stock engine components are astonishingly rugged, capable of withstanding power outputs of over 1000 bhp (~850rwhp dynojet / ~730rwhp dyno dynamics) without having to update any internal components


1000bhp on stock pistons, rods, and crank????

for how long? !!!


This is actually true God knows how long they last for but some nutty american's do it. The 2JZ-GTE engine can take upto 600bhp on standard internals with no trouble at all. Above that though, if ragged every day you will eventually see problems.
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so 225bhp then? its not something i would turn my nose up at tbh. only 60 less than the twin turbo which doesn't seem a vast amount to my admittedly limited knowledge of cars



Its about 100bhp less mate
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quote:
Originally posted by Eckmcmann
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Originally posted by Ditch
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The stock 2JZ-GTE stock engine components are astonishingly rugged, capable of withstanding power outputs of over 1000 bhp (~850rwhp dynojet / ~730rwhp dyno dynamics) without having to update any internal components


1000bhp on stock pistons, rods, and crank????

for how long? !!!


Above that though, if ragged every day you will eventually see problems.


obviously. But you would expect that if you was making such a car.
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quote:
Originally posted by Eckmcmann
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Originally posted by Ditch
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The stock 2JZ-GTE stock engine components are astonishingly rugged, capable of withstanding power outputs of over 1000 bhp (~850rwhp dynojet / ~730rwhp dyno dynamics) without having to update any internal components


1000bhp on stock pistons, rods, and crank????

for how long? !!!


This is actually true God knows how long they last for but some nutty american's do it. The 2JZ-GTE engine can take upto 600bhp on standard internals with no trouble at all. Above that though, if ragged every day you will eventually see problems.


so whats true... the 1000bhp on standard internals or 600bhp on standard internals??!

Bet either would go pop pretty quickly myself...
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30th Nov 06 at 08:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I got my self out of a supra phase a while ago, but now I'm starting to fancy one again

Very informative thread though
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get a UK TT

Cheaper insurance, slighty more expensive to buy. Bigger steel turbo's. More toys. But heavier.

Jap Spec is lighter and quicker though.

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