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corsa-sxi
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6th Jan 07 at 17:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

whats the big deal with hdmi port, doesnt it give hd picture quality already?, any idea when it will be coming out? as i want a 360 soon ish
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6th Jan 07 at 17:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Apparently the original 360 can't output 1080p at all.

So the hdmi port is combined with a new scaler to enable 1080p.
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Originally posted by Jamie Walby
I dont understand all this.



I have no problems with them advancing the console though, even if mine will be old hat. I have no issue so long as mine continues to work.


agreed, i have no intention of buyin a hdtv anyway, would even have a 360 if my parents werent generous enough to buy it me so im happy!
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Originally posted by John
Apparently the original 360 can't output 1080p at all.

So the hdmi port is combined with a new scaler to enable 1080p.


I've always been lead that the 360 could do 1080p, it was just the case that the component and vga cable dont have enough bandwidth for it?

If it can't then that sucks a bit, especially if there going to upscale it giving a worse picture than 1080i

Though im waiting for the new 360, if it's cheap enough i'll get one
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6th Jan 07 at 18:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well there was a download for the 360 to run it at 1080i so they might do the same with 1080p, thing is i dont think alot of tvs on the uk market support 1080p and im not even sure if mine does (samsung r74)
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well there was a download for the 360 to run it at 1080i so they might do the same with 1080p, thing is i dont think alot of tvs on the uk market support 1080p and im not even sure if mine does (samsung r74)


My R74 went a bit funny after trying to run my 360 on 1080. It only appeared on one half of the screen, the other half was black.
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One of the scaler chips in the new one has been upgraded to a version that supports 1080p dom. 'HANA'
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6th Jan 07 at 18:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i hardly suspect this update will cause 'uproar' from the general public because i hardly see the whole of the nation giving that much of a toss about a port. ffs
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exactly the majority of people probably won't even realise lol
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There must be a new version of the 360 coming at some point with an HD-DVD in it (rather than having to have the add-on)?
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There must be a new version of the 360 coming at some point with an HD-DVD in it (rather than having to have the add-on)?


but that would put its price in line with the ps3
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so is there no real difference in playing the 360 via a normal CRT 100hz tv and a hd ready tv then? if the 360 doesnt support higher res?

because i was going to buy the r74 but if quality will be the same i wont bother
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quote:
Originally posted by John
One of the scaler chips in the new one has been upgraded to a version that supports 1080p dom. 'ANA'
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so is there no real difference in playing the 360 via a normal CRT 100hz tv and a hd ready tv then? if the 360 doesnt support higher res?

because i was going to buy the r74 but if quality will be the same i wont bother

my mate was using his 360 on his tv downstairs which is a sony crt, he came round mine and saw mine running on the samsung r74 and the next day he went out and got a sony bravia(he didnt get the samsung as he saw it was a fingerprint and dust magnet).

i never saw it on his old tv but i think that says it all really
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so is there no real difference in playing the 360 via a normal CRT 100hz tv and a hd ready tv then? if the 360 doesnt support higher res?

because i was going to buy the r74 but if quality will be the same i wont bother


eh? lol
Your CRT tv will only support up to 576i/p which isn't high def. The 360 can go up to 1080i currently, with the new version of the 360 having a new upscaler by ANA that will allow full 1080p.

So no it won't be the same quality, far off it when playing the 360 and running it at 1080i. The only problem having a LCD/Plasma is that Standard Def will look a bit pants, but thats to be expected
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by John
One of the scaler chips in the new one has been upgraded to a version that supports 1080p dom. 'ANA'



No 'HANA' like I said.
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quote:
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so is there no real difference in playing the 360 via a normal CRT 100hz tv and a hd ready tv then? if the 360 doesnt support higher res?

because i was going to buy the r74 but if quality will be the same i wont bother


eh? lol
Your CRT tv will only support up to 576i/p which isn't high def. The 360 can go up to 1080i currently, with the new version of the 360 having a new upscaler by ANA that will allow full 1080p.

So no it won't be the same quality, far off it when playing the 360 and running it at 1080i. The only problem having a LCD/Plasma is that Standard Def will look a bit pants, but thats to be expected :thumbs:


what do u mean?

also do u know if the samsung R74 is capable of 1080i from the 360? cheers

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7th Jan 07 at 18:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

IS this not just a modifed xbox360
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa-sxi
so is there no real difference in playing the 360 via a normal CRT 100hz tv and a hd ready tv then? if the 360 doesnt support higher res?

because i was going to buy the r74 but if quality will be the same i wont bother


eh? lol
Your CRT tv will only support up to 576i/p which isn't high def. The 360 can go up to 1080i currently, with the new version of the 360 having a new upscaler by ANA that will allow full 1080p.

So no it won't be the same quality, far off it when playing the 360 and running it at 1080i. The only problem having a LCD/Plasma is that Standard Def will look a bit pants, but thats to be expected :thumbs:


what do u mean?

also do u know if the samsung R74 is capable of 1080i from the 360? cheers




normal tv will look a bit cack, as it's upscaled (ie: made bigger) to fit on the LCD screen.

And yea, if the screen has a sticker for HD then it'll do 720i/p (atleast) and 1080i (usually).
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It'd be more annoying if it was half the size of the original.
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Sony are good at tdoing that.

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